EVE General Discussion

So your arguement is moved from "It's unfair for CCP to favor organizations" to "Unless it happened before I started playing" or "Unless it's below a certain dollar value"

Noted.

To help in your roleplay journalism- here's more CCP giving things to player organizations:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-big-lottery/
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Eve_Radio#Christmas_Comes_Early_2008
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74294
http://eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-online/2316-steelseries-kicks-off-eve-online-community-contest-today-everyone-wins
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1kpwqv/

And to clarify again - I don't think it's wrong for them to have acknowledged the accomplishments of any of those groups.

That's a perfectly acceptable view to take. Just realize that you're fighting a battle that was lost >9 years ago.

Ah, so now you've changed your argument back to "All favortism is wrong"

I get so confused, since some of the other favoritism was irrelevant...

Or not big enough...

Or too long ago...

Or people you liked...

Or some other justification that didn't read like a pouting guttersnipe.

But now that you've changed your opinion again, you can continue crying about a situation that has been the case for 3 times longer than you've been playing this game without being an obvious hypocrite

I thought it was favouritism wrong when I started playing and I think it is wrong now, so no, I have never wavered in my view.

This is Eve Online, a brutal player driven game, where success should be down to the skill and initiative of players, not down to some players doing well with help from CCP.

I'm about 97.5% sure that they have never before given a 3rd party trillion isk in unique ships and a 100% guarantee that they have always been and will continue to be legit as a part of a promotion.

And, oh yeah - when do we start to "shoot the monument"?

It's fun watching you flail about with your opinions as you find out how little you knew about Eve.

Andski said, "EOH Poker and The BIG Lottery just to name two fairly prominent examples that you should know better than to disregard."

Both of which were given items and promotion from CCP. But you were okay with that, because you like them. Or you just didn't know what you were talking about. Probably a mix of both.

Andski said, "Of course they shouldn't get sponsorship. They're an in-game organization composed of a group of players who should not get any sort of special treatment from CCP."

Oops, but both of those are player organizations. We've backtracked to "never okay" again.

Andski said, "EVE Vegas is an event that actually develops the community. A gambling event is not."

Ah, shoot. Back to okay for Devs to back player events again.

Andski said, "The last time CCP backed a "prominent organization" they ended up in a media disaster that destroyed their reputation with the playerbase. People have regularly accused CCP of favoritism towards in-game organizations since.

This is blatant favoritism."

There we go, never okay again.

Andski said, "Hey CCP, when can TheMittani.com start offering unique ships and Fanfest packages sponsored by CCP through their website and stream?"

Only okay if it's you, now. But it's hard to play moral outrage and willing vendor at the same time...

Andski said, "This isn't jealousy, it's denouncing CCP's blatant favoritism."

Whew. Back to never again, righteous crusader!

Andski said, "Hey look, more irrelevant pre-t20 crap.

Also, an impoc is hardly equivalent in value to all-expenses paid trips to Fanfest"

...unless it's big enough.

Andski said, "CCP having done this **** before doesn't mean we have to accept it or that we shouldn't ask CCP to stop doing it."

Really, at this point, it's a bit like beating a puppy, so I'm going to stop.

I realize that you're upset about this.
I realize that you think something has happened that wasn't already normal everyday business.
I realize you even thing you're not being laughed at by everyone who remembers the impoc tears.

Largely, I think it's a reprocussion of Incarna.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal

I'm sure ESRB has been mentioned somewhere in these threadnaughts, but I noticed:

"Twenty-three games have received and kept adult ratings, but apparently twenty (almost all) games were given it for sexual themes and content. Two had violence, and the other one was given the "Adult" rating for real gambling."

With CCP tacitly endorsing SOMER Blink... Can't help but wonder, since real money buys PLEX which is converted to ISK, then deposited to SOMER.

Sure thing, kiddo.

You carry on with the righteous crusade.

I'll look forward to seeing your article about it on Reddit.

oh wait....

True... I dont like that either.

The rich gets richer.... And they also hand out prizes at the Vegas event.

But it does not affect my gameplay so I really don't care. I just did not want them to cheapen what those other ships stood for, that was the only thing I cared about.