EVE General Discussion

Or people like me, who refuse to sign up for an in game corps site. If CCP want to give out prizes, they should do it. Not hand the prizes over to a group who are highly likely to be scamming on a daily basis and participating heavily in RMT.

Don't get me wrong. With this much scrutiny, I doubt blink will be stealing the prizes, but CCP are essentially forcing people to sign up for blink and give them isk (which blink will RMT) if they want a chance to get limited edition stuff. It's disgraceful.

You'd reckon if they were, CCP wouldn't be throwing prizes at them.



If that's the case, ask yourselves how it is you got banned.
You took away your own - and I'll use a word that you most likely will find debatable - 'privilege'.
Who's fault is that, SOMER's?

Because those prizes were trivial token gestures in the grand scheme of the game and thus didn't bring the broader principles into such stark relief. No one makes much of a fuss if someone exceeds the speed limit by 5 miles an hour but that doesn't mean they reject speed limits and it doesn't mean they won't go batshit at someone who exceeds it by 100mph. Nor does it invalidate the criticisms they level at someone who does something beyond the trivial.

I will say that, as a new player, this whole hurrah over SOMER blink is what pointed me in their direction. I might not have even noticed the giveaway or the player organization as a whole if every other forum thread wasn't about how awful it was to provide any sort of aid to a for-profit player run organization.

Guess what ended up happening to me? I tossed a meager 20 million ISK at Somer blink to give it a shot, won a promo blink for a billion blink credits, and ended up with tons of frigates and cruisers I could only dream of affording beforehand. And it was fun bidding on things, lose or win.

If I hadn't gained anything from that 20 million, would I have been bummed out? Not at all. Thats the whole fun of gambling. Because at the end of the day, if you only gamble what you can afford to lose, it can be a fun activity. Its even more fun when you get to play with such low denomination currency (if you so choose).

Honestly, a player-run casino that takes a 20% cut for themselves and uses a portion of it to fund EVE vegas events seems like a perfectly reasonable organization to sponsor. Is it really that big of a deal that they're for-profit? They still provide fun for new and existing players, and encourage people to buy PLEX for blink credit, which means more money towards the game you love, coming out of someone else's pocket.

Just like aesthetic/vanity items like the monocles or anything else, they contribute to CCP's pocketbook, which means more money for staff, and a more profitable and happy devteam, which is good for the game. And it doesn't affect you ingame at all! Its not pay-to-win, or providing any other direct disadvantage to you as a player.

Somer blink gets a +1 from me.

@Mr Epeen: Playing at a casino, or any other gambling site, isn't about winning more money than you put in. Its about the rush and the chance of hitting it big. A rational gambler expects to lose their money gambling, and does it simply for the fun of it, and is pleasantly surprised when they manage to get something while also having fun.

After all, we play EVE, just like any other game, for the fun of it, right? Unless we're making money RMTing, we never get back what we invest. Its really not any different. If you don't enjoy gambling, thats fine. I don't particularly enjoy mining, and some people only like pvp. But we each have aspects of gameplay that are fun to us personally, and gambling is something that some of us certainly enjoy

Internet spaceships people.

Oh man, I'm enjoying the tears...they taste fantastic!!!

As i see it... there's a Limited Edition ships, one of them which is a tournament prize, that CCP wants to give away.
That in itself isn't a problem, the problem occurs when CCP seeds those ships again.

1) The Golden Magnate was one of it's kind, it's dead, they should make a golden imicus instead so they wouldn't have to change the history.

2) The Guardian-Vexor is a tournament prize... which is being seeded from CCP, to SOMER to give away in a lottery.
If anything CCP should seed more of said tournament prize ships to the entity that won that tournament to begin with. However as CCP said themselves, it's meant to be rare ships which is why they're OP.

3) The problem isn't with SOMER blinking expensive ships, the problem is with CCP seeding ships into the sandbox.
As others people have mentioned, that's CCP interfeering with the sandbox, straight our favouring an entity over another. <--- that is what is making people upset..

Not that there's ships being reseeded.

Not that SOMER can blink those ships.

It's that they're combined.


Now don't get me wrong here as those "CCP can do what they want" people, idd they can however this is a service i pay for, and i expect that i can make a complaint to a service which i pay for.

That being said i want to point one more thing out... SOMER is not buying the ships to lottery them, and the last i heard a guardian-vexor is worth 100b.. they're getting 2.


CCP is well known for their terrible way of handling customers, and i don't think it'll ever change.
However in my opinion CCP should remain neutral to all changes in the game... you cannot be neutral when you're directly taking one partys pov, and giving them free stuff, which in this batch is worth several hundred billions.
On top of that it's not even new ships, it's old ships which have served their life time as "Limited-edition ships", aswell as using a tournament ship in there.

The problem is not CCP seeding them again. That part does not bother me in the least bit.

What bothers me is the fact they effectively gave a player run for profit group a stack of ISK.

ENOUGH TO START THEIR OWN EMPIRE WITH...

I understand SommerBlink is already rich, but they took the competitiveness out of a competitive sandbox game.

https://goblinworks.com/blog/

i don't know anything about somer blink

i don't want to use their service so im excluded from the lottery am i?

Considering somer bans at their discretion, and their reasons have included - on numerous occasions - the fact that multiple accounts have used the same IP - something which is completely innocent (college dorm connection, internet cafe, house mate / family member also plays, etc) ... then perhaps you should take the insinuations that anyone who has been excluded did something wrong and got themselves excluded and shove them.

:)