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CCP reintroducing the Gold Magate and adding in new Guardian-Vexors through Somer Blink
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Mra Rednu
Oyonata Gate Defence Force.
#221 - 2013-09-26 15:31:13 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
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The Gold Magnate no longer exists in game, so nothing is being devalued.



I'd disagree with that, the story of it has been devalued greatly and to a lot that matters and not in a RP way.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#222 - 2013-09-26 15:32:19 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Ranger 1 wrote:


The Guardian-Vexor, to my knowledge, was never billed as a limited edition never to be released again ship when it was created.



You do realize that GV was issued as part of a "tournament?" Know your history first.

Also, CCP Dev said Ishukone Scorpion Watch will not be issued as part of other events during the charity event.
Cursan Voran
Jita Traders Society
#223 - 2013-09-26 15:33:15 UTC
:CCP:

Why do you always **** things up?

Every time EVE seems to be going ok you pull a **** move and get players hating you again. Why? Why? Why do you do this?
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#224 - 2013-09-26 15:34:08 UTC
Cursan Voran wrote:
:CCP:

Why do you always **** things up?

Every time EVE seems to be going ok you pull a **** move and get players hating you again. Why? Why? Why do you do this?


Hubris

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#225 - 2013-09-26 15:35:48 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Rainbow Dash wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:


Are you being completely blind? Once this happens, it is most certain that MORE UNIQUE SHIPS will be flooded in the market.


They pretty much stated AT ships would be re-released, just not "through a lottery system"

Also **** you CCP, if I would have known this was happening I wouldn't have resubbed for a year. At least you won't get money for any of my other accounts.

Actually, as far as tournament ships go, this is what they said.

Quote:
Let’s look at some of the other ships. Tournament ships will not be handed out in this fashion ever. These ships require full alliances to work hard over a long period of time so handing them out for free would absolutely cheapen the achievements of teams like Verge of Collapse, HYDRA RELOADED and Pandemic Legion and this is not what we are aiming for.


The Gold Magnate no longer exists in game, so nothing is being devalued.

The Guardian-Vexor, to my knowledge, was never billed as a limited edition never to be released again ship when it was created.


CCP said in May they would never re-release the GV. Ignoring that, they pretty specifically say in that statement that tournament ships will not be re-released through a similar event, implying that they will re-release them. I petitioned it, and since we're not allowed to post petitions here, let's just say CCP said something along the lines of "there is no guarantee, nor has there ever been, that we will not reintroduce these ships as rewards for other activities"
Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#226 - 2013-09-26 15:38:07 UTC
As a person who uses the Eve economy, I trade mainly in high value collectables such as ships.

I have owned and traded a G-vex
owned and traded a few torny ships
and currently trading IWS

To just give them away really screws with your own ingame economy, surely the economist chap has put these concerns over?

CCP you are devaluing things people have worked hard to acquire, and people are working towards as a "goal" and people are trading, I have played this game for almost 10 years, stop giving us a sandbox to play with then messing with our sandcastles.
iskflakes
#227 - 2013-09-26 15:38:38 UTC
This is very bad. Very bad.

Why give Somer the free billions?

Why re-release rare ships that some people paid a fortune for?

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Big Lynx
#228 - 2013-09-26 15:40:23 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
This is very bad. Very bad.

Why give Somer the free billions?

Why re-release rare ships that some people paid a fortune for?


Good question? a dev online?
Josef Djugashvilis
#229 - 2013-09-26 15:40:47 UTC
Just a thought, did the CSM know about, and support or challenge CCP when it was suggested that free ships be given/gifted to a player corp?

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#230 - 2013-09-26 15:41:12 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
This is very bad. Very bad.

Why give Somer the free billions?

Why re-release rare ships that some people paid a fortune for?


Not just that, with the re-release of these rare unique ships, it is devaluing the pre-existing collectors' networth. This handout of rare ships is only the beginning of full promulgation of unique ships in the future.
Bronco Platz
Doomheim
#231 - 2013-09-26 15:43:30 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Just a thought, did the CSM know about, and support or challenge CCP when it was suggested that free ships be given/gifted to a player corp?


I wonder, that not even Malcanics was here, to write one of his famous one-liners. But if I read correctly @Jesters Trek, there is a CSM-Stakeholders-Meeting today. Maybe they can bring it up there.

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Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#232 - 2013-09-26 15:44:28 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Just a thought, did the CSM know about, and support or challenge CCP when it was suggested that free ships be given/gifted to a player corp?


No. The CSM was not consulted.

Trebors Statement

This is pretty much always the case when something explodes in drama. CCP makes a decision that most any player would say is a bad idea. They will then circle the wagons a bit and wonder why there is so much rage. I believe their intentions were probably good and pure with this move. The issue is it is such a horrible decision to hand out favoritism to player groups that it can never work out. If CCP wants to do something like this, they should run the lotto and do it with new ship types.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#233 - 2013-09-26 15:44:34 UTC
Is this actually happening for real?

Giving Guardian Vexors to Blink?

ffs this is outrageously terrible, CCP cancel this bullshit


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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#234 - 2013-09-26 15:48:16 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Just a thought, did the CSM know about, and support or challenge CCP when it was suggested that free ships be given/gifted to a player corp?



Apparently it is as much news to them as to us and seems just as unwelcome.

Jester's Trek: Something in the air

Another classic example of the old CCP "foot in mouth and swallow hard" style of player relations.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Abernie
Thoroughly Incompetent
#235 - 2013-09-26 15:48:50 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Just a thought, did the CSM know about, and support or challenge CCP when it was suggested that free ships be given/gifted to a player corp?

Nope
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#236 - 2013-09-26 15:49:08 UTC
Please, SOMER, steal the ships. SOMER scamming CCP will be the most infamous theft of all time.

Dodixie > Hek
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#237 - 2013-09-26 15:49:39 UTC
So Somer is now CCP-endorsed? Is CCP in control of the method by which their lotteries are conducted? If not, how will they ensure that the lottery isn't subverted? If the answer is "they can't," this is quite possibly the stupidest idea they've ever had. It is deeply troubling that CCP would ever get involved with any lottery service in EVE. There is simply no way to differentiate a legitimate lottery service from a scam unless you control it.

I also wasn't aware that CCP was in the habit of distributing huge windfalls to private organizations. Where is my Black Frog Edition Rhea for founding Black Frog (the best stats taken from all 4 racial JFs, with total black skin and red lights).?

Srsly, WTF!?

Bokononist

 
Abernie
Thoroughly Incompetent
#238 - 2013-09-26 15:49:45 UTC
Roime wrote:
Is this actually happening for real?

Giving Guardian Vexors to Blink?

ffs this is outrageously terrible, CCP cancel this bullshit



Guardian-Vexors, Golden Magnates and Ishukone Scorpions, yes.
Josef Djugashvilis
#239 - 2013-09-26 15:51:01 UTC
Nice to see CCP and the CSM working as a close knit team for the good of the game.

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Allianc
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#240 - 2013-09-26 15:51:16 UTC
Have we forgotten T20 so soon CCP?

Those ships are done, let them stay done.