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The True Spirit of Vak’Atioth
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Morijah d'Hanguest
Ishtirak d'Hanguest
#21 - 2013-09-29 17:23:00 UTC
In the Name of the Lord


To whom it may concern,

the original grounds that lead to the escalating of opinions and statements roughly one and a half years ago, have now been solved. While it is not my intent to further comment on the original grounds and the statements that followed, it shall be public knowledge that independent lawyers—from both royal and imperial law firms—have rendered expert opinions that all voiced statements and performed actions, regardless of their footing in actual events, are deemed null and void and Her Grace returned to the status quo ante. The public may account for that in its correspondence with the mentioned party.

Yours sincerely,
Morijah d’Hanguest
CEO of Ishtirak d’Hanguest
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#22 - 2013-09-29 18:09:06 UTC
Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:
In the Name of the Lord


To whom it may concern,

the original grounds that lead to the escalating of opinions and statements roughly one and a half years ago, have now been solved. While it is not my intent to further comment on the original grounds and the statements that followed, it shall be public knowledge that independent lawyers—from both royal and imperial law firms—have rendered expert opinions that all voiced statements and performed actions, regardless of their footing in actual events, are deemed null and void and Her Grace returned to the status quo ante. The public may account for that in its correspondence with the mentioned party.

Yours sincerely,
Morijah d’Hanguest
CEO of Ishtirak d’Hanguest

And what do your lawyers say about her recent heterodox comments?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2013-09-29 19:26:39 UTC
I'm quite in doubt whether those comments still count as 'heterodox', Admiral Blake. I'm usually quite in favour of being as inclusive as possible, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

Also, CEO d'Hanguest, I suppose you have those expert opinions in writing? I'd like to have them checked by my own 'independent lawyers'. That said, I find the flux titles are subject to within the d'Hanguest family highly concerning, such decisions shouldn't be made as lightly as they appear to be made by you.

Regards,
- N. Mithra
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-09-29 20:33:30 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
We're a bunch of immortal mass murderers; are we really going to chastise a woman for being in an adult holoreel? Given all the horrible things capsuleers do on a regular basis without a thought, an adult holoreel is pretty innocent.

Lets get back on the subject of Vak'Atioth. This childish pointing and giggling from a distance was over quite some time ago.

Gallentean, it's you and your kin who are a bunch of immoral mass murderers.
Don't speak about others, who reply here.


So you're claiming that you, a dedicated and seasoned combat pilot, hasn't killed thousands of people? That's pretty low, even for you Diana.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Morijah d'Hanguest
Ishtirak d'Hanguest
#25 - 2013-09-29 21:28:23 UTC
In the Name of the Lord


Ms Mithra,

thank you for your interest in this matter. You will find the case in question and its correspondence archived on the grounds of the Royal Chancery/Khanid Prime. Access to the files is exclusively granted by personal approval of Her Grace. The charged registrar goes by the name of Mr Teilf Kahven.

With regards to Her Grace’s titles I suggest you to examine the Book of Records under the entry of “Odelya of House d’Hanguest, Duchess of Palas and Lustrevik.”

Yours sincerely,
Morijah d’Hanguest
CEO of Ishtirak d’Hanguest
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#26 - 2013-09-30 00:30:12 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
We're a bunch of immortal mass murderers; are we really going to chastise a woman for being in an adult holoreel? Given all the horrible things capsuleers do on a regular basis without a thought, an adult holoreel is pretty innocent.

Lets get back on the subject of Vak'Atioth. This childish pointing and giggling from a distance was over quite some time ago.

Gallentean, it's you and your kin who are a bunch of immoral mass murderers.
Don't speak about others, who reply here.


So you're claiming that you, a dedicated and seasoned combat pilot, hasn't killed thousands of people? That's pretty low, even for you Diana.



It also seems that she has trouble reading the word 'immortal' there Fred.

Still, I never credited her with an abundance of brainpower, so perhaps that can be overlooked.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#27 - 2013-09-30 00:52:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
This is a lot of moralizing coming from the woman who starred in an... "adult" holoreel, lied about it and attempted to cover it up.

Clean your own house before criticizing others for their supposed poor housekeeping, slaver.

By the way, the real lesson to be learned from Vak'Atioth was not to go attacking your neighbors.


Or perhaps it actually was a smear campaign against her? I've seen the 'evidence', and I can safely say that isn't Lady d'Hanguest in the videos. Merely a lookalike.


Due diligence at its finest, Chūjō.

Fredfredbug4 wrote:
We're a bunch of immortal mass murderers; are we really going to chastise a woman for being in an adult holoreel?


I reserve the right to do so.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-09-30 01:22:25 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:

So you're claiming that you, a dedicated and seasoned combat pilot, hasn't killed thousands of people? That's pretty low, even for you Diana.

I have killed a lot.
But I am a soldier, not a murderer.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#29 - 2013-09-30 02:51:54 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
This is a lot of moralizing coming from the woman who starred in an... "adult" holoreel, lied about it and attempted to cover it up.

Clean your own house before criticizing others for their supposed poor housekeeping, slaver.

By the way, the real lesson to be learned from Vak'Atioth was not to go attacking your neighbors.


Or perhaps it actually was a smear campaign against her? I've seen the 'evidence', and I can safely say that isn't Lady d'Hanguest in the videos. Merely a lookalike.


Due diligence at its finest, Chūjō.


Everyone makes mistakes.

Katrina Oniseki
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2013-09-30 06:24:46 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
I'm quite in doubt whether those comments still count as 'heterodox', Admiral Blake. I'm usually quite in favour of being as inclusive as possible, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

Also, CEO d'Hanguest, I suppose you have those expert opinions in writing? I'd like to have them checked by my own 'independent lawyers'. That said, I find the flux titles are subject to within the d'Hanguest family highly concerning, such decisions shouldn't be made as lightly as they appear to be made by you.

Regards,
- N. Mithra


You're right of course, but then I always was one to favour inclusivity over ideology.

And I'm still interested to hear what the d'Hanguest lawers have to say about her comments - the lack of information would imply that they consider them to be not in keeping with a loyal Amarrian subject.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2013-09-30 12:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicoletta Mithra
Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:
In the Name of the Lord


Ms Mithra,

thank you for your interest in this matter. You will find the case in question and its correspondence archived on the grounds of the Royal Chancery/Khanid Prime. Access to the files is exclusively granted by personal approval of Her Grace. The charged registrar goes by the name of Mr Teilf Kahven.

With regards to Her Grace’s titles I suggest you to examine the Book of Records under the entry of “Odelya of House d’Hanguest, Duchess of Palas and Lustrevik.”

Yours sincerely,
Morijah d’Hanguest
CEO of Ishtirak d’Hanguest


CEO d'Hanguest,

as I had to visit Dam Torsad, I took the liberty to take a look into the Book of Records directly. While I am usually able to decipher the calligraphy of the specially trained priests of the Theology Council that keep those records nowadays, I must admit that I had problems with the entry of Odelya d'Hanguest. Given all the blackened entries on her page and titles that had then been added again, the script was quite hard to decipher. Therefore I asked for the priest responsible for Odelya d'Hanguest's entry and inquired about her status and titles.

I asked whether I could quote him in the answer he has given and I am glad that he gave me license to do so. What he said, then, is this: "She holds the titles she lays claim to in the Kingdom, by royal decree. As far as I am concerned all that would be needed on this page is what we can discern about her from the pre-moral reforms Book of Records of the Cult of Tetrimon, which she so adores." He put special emphasis on 'in the Kingdom' and 'by royal decree'.

It appears to me that despite being slightly disgruntled for all the changes he was forced to make to his work of art and which left it less aesthetically pleasing than it could have been, the good man still was able to take it with a good measure of humor. As far as the Empire goes, she seems to be a person and is acknowledged as such. For her ties to the Cult of Tetrimon and her libel of core institutions of the Empire (vulgo: the Theology Council) she's noted as a persona non grata, though, it appears to me.

If Ms. d'Hanguest wants to be addressed as a noble, she's free to bring the matter before the impartial judges of the Theology Council and let them decide the matter. For now I see nothing that merits to address someone who speaks about a holy institution of the Amarr Empire, loyal servants of God and the Empress, as she does as a noble.

Regards,
- N. Mithra
Morijah d'Hanguest
Ishtirak d'Hanguest
#32 - 2013-09-30 15:01:10 UTC
In the Name of the Lord


Ms Mithra,

thank you for your interest in genealogical matters pertaining to our house. Our lawyers referred to certain errors in your statement that I would like to make mention of.

1.) Her Grace is on no account a persona non grata in the Empire.
2.) The requirements to address Her Grace according to protocol and custom, are unrelated to her desires and wishes, or that of other parties.
3.) The judges and arbiters of the Theology Council hold no jurisdiction over Royal Khanid nobility.

On a more personal note I would like to add that Her Grace’s comments on the Theology Council and further theological questions are completely within the legitimate scope of interpretation.

Yours sincerely,
Morijah d’Hanguest
CEO of Ishtirak d’Hanguest
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-09-30 16:24:30 UTC
I am suddenly reminded of those Gallente starlets who try everything under the sun to stay in the limelight.

Fading career and name?

Time for a skinflick! Those work, right?

That doesn't work?

Public atonement and turning a new leaf! My new piety knows no bounds!



I suspect this phase will grow dull soon as well.

Stay tuned for a calibrated relapse into sin, drug usage, and possible overdose and 'rock bottom' phase to be initiated soon.

You really need a new PR team, deary.



Sabik now, Sabik forever
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2013-09-30 17:41:21 UTC
Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:

3.) The judges and arbiters of the Theology Council hold no jurisdiction over Royal Khanid nobility.



So for the record, are you saying that Odelya is a member of the Royal Khanid nobility?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#35 - 2013-09-30 17:53:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Odelya d'Hanguest
Rodj Blake wrote:

So for the record, are you saying that Odelya is a member of the Royal Khanid nobility?
Huh? Have you lost your mind now? What my sister meant is Royal Khanid nobiliy, as opposed to Imperial nobility—but doesn't this go without saying? What should a Duchess of Palas else be? Caldari nobility?

Silas Vitalia wrote:
[...]
Back to your hideout, traitor!
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2013-09-30 17:57:40 UTC
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

So for the record, are you saying that Odelya is a member of the Royal Khanid nobility?
Huh? Have you lost your mind now? What my sister meant is Royal Khanid nobiliy, as opposed to Imperial nobility—but doesn't this go without saying? What should a Duchess of Palas else be? Caldari nobility?



It's impossible for you to be a member of the Royal Khanid nobility and for you or your sister to suggest otherwise is arguably treason against your King.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-09-30 18:01:42 UTC
Having grown up with quite a few established families in the Kingdom, well let's just say on Khanid Prime my family always considered anyone coming out of Palas to be a bit..... provincial.


At your current rate you'll be turning tricks for a few extra nerve sticks by the end of the year, hawking a few minutes of special time with the "Duchess of Palas."


Sabik now, Sabik forever
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2013-09-30 18:02:50 UTC
Oh my, she appears to have almost broken the bank with this one...

Quote:

Bounty placed on you
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2013.09.29 16:36

Odelya d'Hanguest placed 566,666 ISK in bounty on your head.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-09-30 18:04:34 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Oh my, she appears to have almost broken the bank with this one...

Quote:

Bounty placed on you
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2013.09.29 16:36

Odelya d'Hanguest placed 566,666 ISK in bounty on your head.



Nothing she can't make up selling a few more holos!


Sabik now, Sabik forever
Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#40 - 2013-09-30 18:11:57 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

So for the record, are you saying that Odelya is a member of the Royal Khanid nobility?
Huh? Have you lost your mind now? What my sister meant is Royal Khanid nobiliy, as opposed to Imperial nobility—but doesn't this go without saying? What should a Duchess of Palas else be? Caldari nobility?



It's impossible for you to be a member of the Royal Khanid nobility and for you or your sister to suggest otherwise is arguably treason against your King.
Royal is used to qualify the Khanid Kingdom. Khanid—without the qualifier—might be confused for a Khanid holder in the Empire. Since my dear sister is a lawyer herself she wouldn't make mistake.

Rodj Blake wrote:
Oh my, she appears to have almost broken the bank with this one...

Quote:

Bounty placed on you
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2013.09.29 16:36

Odelya d'Hanguest placed 566,666 ISK in bounty on your head.
It is known that you hardly leave your quarters, so why should I waste more than you are worth? Should you however have the guts I challenge you for a duel—one versus one. My sister will work out the details.

The same for you, traitor scum.