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Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2013-09-30 08:38:57 UTC
Andracin wrote:
Since it's -10 players ganking and you have an orca, Im assuming your a high sec miner. If that is the case I am very well experienced in this activity. The answer to your question is almost any ship larger than a noob ship can kill a gank fit catalyst or thrasher.

If your expecting to stop a gank-in-progress, forget it. Once we land on your face with over-heated neutron blasters you will probably not even be able to switch ships fast enough to kill anything before CONCORD and the faction police show up and end us anyway. Best case sceneario you manage to ***** on a couple kills before we die. If anything its a "moral" victory for you, but your miner is probably dead. Alignment, situational awareness and not going AFK are your best defense.


Another serious answer from one of my members! Yay! We almost seem like... matureShocked
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-09-30 08:41:34 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
7'62 SKS wrote:
[Griffin, Hypnos Countercat]
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I

'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]

Super cheap, low skill, locks a catalyst in 2.5 seconds or so, each jammer has about a 8 in 11 chance of jamming one catalyst for 20 seconds, depending on skills. This could remove 4 catalysts from the equation far sooner than CONCORD will in a 0.5 system. One or two of these orbiting the miners could really put a kink in the DPS...if pilot reaction time is reasonable. Once a catalyst is locked and jammed, he will be completely disabled until CONCORD can arrive, take over jamming, and destroy the cat.


I have never understood why more people dont use ECM to protect against gankers.


Now the tears are gonna be complete when we use even more people to make the faction police not show up, and then kill your griffin for agressing us firstTwisted
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-09-30 14:10:23 UTC
Grunanca wrote:


Now the tears are gonna be complete when we use even more people to make the faction police not show up, and then kill your griffin for agressing us firstTwisted


Yeah, because I meant that ecm should jam any ship that lands on grid.

Obviously if it were me, I would wait until you went yellow to jam you. And since my griffen has an optimal range of around 70km, GASP I wouldnt be anywhere in range of your cat. (This is pointless, because it would never be ME protecting miners, but I digress..)

There seems to be some giant misunderstanding in C&P lately about "TEARS". It seems the current belief system goes with this.

Tears = ANYTHING THAT IS SAID by your target. Allow me to elaborate. TEARS = crying about something. Maybe a little rage fit in local, maybe a nasty post on the forums demanding a nerf to combat, ect.

NOT Tears = constructive attempts/posts ect that attempt to develop a working countermeasure. Just because someone doesnt want to get ganked doesnt mean they are crying about it. And furthermore, I am HAPPY that some of them are starting to try. Its honestly more fun for everyone.

LOL @ "tears".

And before you go off on calling me a carebear or some such, take a look at my sec status and KB on zkill. Im a pvp player. I dont cry over spilled pixels.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2013-10-01 15:15:03 UTC
Hurricane.
650mm ungrouped.
High scan resolution.
Sit at distance.
Lock, lock, lock.
F1, 0.5sec delay, F2, ship pops and game switches to next target, F3, delay, F4, ship pops and game ... etc etc
Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2013-10-02 07:34:14 UTC
If you are actually watching, you could fit an ECM burst, sure it will only break locks but assuming they are all -10 or criminally flagged there's a good chance you won't even get CONCORDED for it but even if you do being on 4-6 mails in your barge is worth the price of admission.

Not to mention the moment of confusion caused by the lock loss and the time it takes to relock may even save you.

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-10-02 08:39:11 UTC
Balls...
Balls are a good counter.

You man the f*ck up and drop some dessies / cruisers yourself.

a single BC should be able to deal with a bunch of dessies.

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