EVE General Discussion

limited number allowed with in a proxcimity of the gate. dont you read my other posts?

limitations on use IE you can have 10 with in 10km of the gate with in 2km of each other i dont know thats why we talking about it.

and again this agument can be brought for anything added to game realy

thousand man blob in new frig ship insa kills things on gate as they jump in thousand man blob in new bs insta killing on game bla bla bla. lets not jsut shoot everything own before its talked about.

i love the fact you come into somthing 100% negitive every time. yes 10 mines from ur defending fleet on the gate u jump in u cant place mines. but if the ships that placed mines in on that gate leave system mines go by e bye. so you can then place yours. as mines are ment for defending an area not many people i know would jump into a room during a building assault and go wait a sec i will place a claymore down here they get in get hit by what ever is waiting for them then win the fire fight then set up there defences.

So, lets apply your own mechanics to bubbles, a similar mechanic (in some respects) already in game. Someone anchors a certain amount of bubbles on a gate, and now opposing parties can't anchor bubbles until they get rid of the originals.

Yeah, I stand by what I said. Terrible Idea.

On a serious note, I wouldn't mind seeing mines back in EVE under the following restrictions:

• Minelayer T2 Destroyer - The only ship that can lay mines.
• Limit 10-15 Mines - 10-15 mines per minelayer.
• No Remote Functionality - You must stay on grid with them for the mines to be active, otherwise they're "abandoned" and self destruct.
• No Blast Radius - Mines do single target damage, and do not explode like bombs. Impact damage only.
• Moving Mines - Mines move towards the enemy ship similar to a drone.
• No Proximity Checks, No AFK Use - Mines must be ordered to attack an enemy ship just like drones, unless they or the minelayer are attacked first.
• Single Use, No Retrieval - Mines cannot be scooped after being deployed by either the minelayer or the enemy fleet.

In effect, this would turn mines into suicide drones. I think it could be a useful addition, and fit well within the server's current capability.

The problem with auto-attack is that it requires the server to constantly check if something is nearby that the mines can attack. This contributes to server lag. In a single player game it wouldn't be a problem at all, but in a multiplayer game where a SMALL gang of ten ships can lay 100 mines, each of them demanding to know if there's an enemy nearby to attack... you can see how things can get bad very quickly.

If you require a player order to attack or require a different player to manually trigger the mines, it makes everything a lot easier. It's not realistic, but it's the only option that reduces stress on the server. Keep in mind that even the way they are now, drones can cause a massive decrease in server performance. Have you ever seen what happens when a blob of supercarriers and carriers deploy all their fighters? 200+ drones all doing their own thing. The server nearly has a heart attack and goes right into TiDi.

I was being generous with 10 mines. You'll probably only get 5. If you're worried about wasting them, you should be asking them to be inexpensive. Damage balance is a whole different ballpark which I won't get into.

We already have suicide drones, they are called missiles.

I would love to see them brought back. They need to work correctly though. It would be ideal if they were given a 90 day space timer so people could set up mined entrances to private gates... kind of like in Freelancer when you wanted to go from the New York system to Alaska through that wormhole and you had to know the route through the minefield or you'd get blowed up.

I was around when mines were in game. Anyone seriously proposing their return in any form is completely delusional