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Hello fellow MD investors!

I am looking for a 12.2B loan to increase my trading ability with regional hub trading.

Previous Investors
• Pinnel
• Kraillach
• Michelle P1H9A8N1
• okoolos rimmer
• I Was There
• Plato Idari

Summary
• Bond size: 12.2B (12 Billion ISK)
• Min Investment:1B
• Rate: 10%
• Collateral: None
• Start date: ASAP
• Maturity: Oct (+30 days from Start)

What do i need the ISK for?
I am a station trader and also beginning to venture into the production side of things. I have around ~23B ISK at the moment which is all tided up in orders

With the inject of 12.2B ISK I can increase my orders and proceed to make more profit than I would without it.

Terms
• The loan will start as soon as the ISK has been received.
• If you wish to pull out before the 30 days you will not receive any interest.
• 10% interest will be paid within 48 hours of maturity (+30 days from start date if loan starts later)

I will keep you up to date on this thread of my progress or via evemail if that's your preference

Risks
• I do not carry more than 1B worth of items at one time. (Limits the risk of getting popped).
• No profit - I don't see this happening, if it does then the investment & interest will be paid out of my own pocket.
• Wardec - Station trading involves little undocking

FAQ.
Q: Alts? Mains?
A: Dai007 is my main character. Wafflehead is my second account for station trading / hauling / freighter. Mattikus Saken is another alt used for production.

Q: No collateral?
A: I have an obelisk but i need it for region trading.

Q: Will you steal my ISK?
A: I have no interest in stealing or running away with the ISK. I have no reason to do so. You guys will be helping me make ISK so in turn i am willing to pay the interest. My previous loans have shown you can trust me.

Previous Completed Loans:

✔ 8B @ 10% - 30 Days (Most Recent) ☼
✔ 4B @ 10% - 30 Days
✔ 2B @ 10% - 30 Days
✔ 2B @ 10% - 30 Days
✔ 1B @ 10% - 30 Days
✔ 1B @ 10% - 30 Days
✔ 1B @ 10% - 30 Days
✔ 1B @ 15% - 1 Month



Please feel free to ask any questions.

Wafflehead

ill fill your remaining 2bil.

i've been waiting for the new loan to open up.

at work so ill transfer funds as soon as i get home.

isk sent

I'd hope that you'd get to more than 12B after 2 years though.

I have no reason to steal the ISK. I average around 1B isk a day on profits.

I could easily make 12B on my own, the fact is that the more ISK I can put into buy orders the more ISK I make.

I increase the value of the loans to allow other investors, as previously stated in another post that if I failed to get the level I have asked for then I would start the loan with however much I have gained in investment.

I have no interest in scamming anyone, all my characters are listed and I have never been involved with scams.

I do not beg or bump these loans, if people are happy to trust me then I'm happy providing a 10% interest. Some investors make an easy 400M without doing anything.

I am a trader and I have plenty of data/graphs if any investor would like. (I will not provide api as that would list the items I use).

I am not using this to increase my 'rep' and then scam for XB because I am making enough by myself.

Trust is an issue with eve, and you see it happening everyday, the same as real life. But there are people out there that are trust worthy.

Please do not turn this thread into a trolling post, I understand that you have a certain view on this, but it has been noted for everyone to see.

I will confirm ISK in a few hours as I am at work. Limited access.

P.S - You say even the stupidest person could think of a reason to steal, well that may be the way you think, but not everyone is the same.

Half the confirmed investors in this loan have invested and got burned previously in similar uncollaterised loans.

Turns out that the same ppl seem to like getting burn again on the same loans?

Also The Greenmachine Greenmachine is extremely protective of such scams and happens to be margin scammer in jita local.

Would like to endorse the pyramid scam model.

On the other hand it's possible for one scammer to have created several MD personas to act as shills filling the first few of his loans to move things along when regular MD people wouldn't have touched them. That would explain why the same few guys show up in the obviously a scam topics over and over while also adding some faith in humanity.

Quick Update:
Estimated Profit: 15.5B
Estimated Profit Per Day: 863M

Profit Per Day showing lower than usual due to a few days not trading. Although overall profit is still pleasing.

The previous loans are not 'grinder' loans and this is not a scam.

Why would I take 12.2B when I can easily make that and more per month?. Maybe you don't understand the concept of you have to have ISK to make ISK.

The loan value will increase for as long as investors want to invest. If no-one wants to 'take a chance' as you are describing it, then I will stick with the current investors. If they wish to stop and pull out then that's what will happen.

10% is there for a reason, the added risk is worth the return. I cannot secure these loans as I need ISK, there is no point me buying X amount of X items to secure it, as I may as-well just sell them items.

P.S - Added another production/research ALT to me collection - Rex Anguine.
Any personal expenses are NOT covered by the loan, I use my own ISK to purchase characters/items/plex etc.

Without revealing my API data there is nothing further more I can 'prove' to you.

You do realize, that this is EXACTLY what every scammer says, right?