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Drones Assist Mechanic Question/Thought
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2013-09-20 23:23:01 UTC
Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:
Andski wrote:
"one guy in an instalocking supertanked T3 commanding the DPS of 200 sentries is perfectly fine guys"


Posting in a stealth "buff goon tears" thread

"Goon tears"

Really now?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2013-09-20 23:25:44 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Seriously, where is our drone assist doctrine, I thought we were getting one, now I'm a little jealous.

RAZOR had/has one. I only got to fly it once before my corp left to join you guys.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#63 - 2013-09-20 23:29:31 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Seriously, where is our drone assist doctrine, I thought we were getting one, now I'm a little jealous.

RAZOR had/has one. I only got to fly it once before my corp left to join you guys.

Wait ...

Ah, you're in that corp that joined GSF. Welcome Blink

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Mekkimaru
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2013-09-20 23:30:12 UTC
some1 pls halp

i can no longer assist my drones and go afk to get kills, while i am in absolute safety inside my POS, i actually have to venture outside my POS and put my ships at risk in order to get kills

CCP pls m8 halp

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#65 - 2013-09-20 23:33:59 UTC
Mekkimaru wrote:
some1 pls halp

i can no longer assist my drones and go afk to get kills, while i am in absolute safety inside my POS, i actually have to venture outside my POS and put my ships at risk in order to get kills

CCP pls m8 halp

Hmm... I see

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2013-09-20 23:37:52 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
require something beyond bashing the F1 key


lol

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2013-09-20 23:39:56 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Seriously, where is our drone assist doctrine, I thought we were getting one, now I'm a little jealous.

RAZOR had/has one. I only got to fly it once before my corp left to join you guys.

Wait ...

Ah, you're in that corp that joined GSF. Welcome Blink

Yep. Phreeze even saw fit to write a TMC article about it. His style of journalism is more suited to E24 though...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#68 - 2013-09-20 23:40:32 UTC
My thoughts on the matter are:

It's a bullshit mechanic. Possibly one of the top 5 bullshit mechanics in EVE. Even the people who used it in the instance it was just banned in don't deny that. Everyone is just trying to point the hypocrite finger at each other, and I don't really care one way or another.

This does show that it's on CCPs radar though.

And a drone rework is long, long overdue.

I'd like to see it as a major feature of Winter, alongside Drone Region reworks, etc. A whole drone themed expac.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2013-09-21 00:04:34 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
My thoughts on the matter are:

It's a bullshit mechanic. Possibly one of the top 5 bullshit mechanics in EVE. Even the people who used it in the instance it was just banned in don't deny that. Everyone is just trying to point the hypocrite finger at each other, and I don't really care one way or another.

This does show that it's on CCPs radar though.

And a drone rework is long, long overdue.

I'd like to see it as a major feature of Winter, alongside Drone Region reworks, etc. A whole drone themed expac.


Just to be clear the exploit was pilots assigning their drones and then hiding in a POS where they couldn't be shot. The fundamental mechanic of assigning drones isn't an exploit but it's pretty obvious that the way some groups are using it is broken gameplay that should be addressed.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#70 - 2013-09-21 00:08:37 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
My thoughts on the matter are:

It's a bullshit mechanic. Possibly one of the top 5 bullshit mechanics in EVE. Even the people who used it in the instance it was just banned in don't deny that. Everyone is just trying to point the hypocrite finger at each other, and I don't really care one way or another.

This does show that it's on CCPs radar though.

And a drone rework is long, long overdue.

I'd like to see it as a major feature of Winter, alongside Drone Region reworks, etc. A whole drone themed expac.

Just to be clear the exploit was pilots assigning their drones and then hiding in a POS where they couldn't be shot. The fundamental mechanic of assigning drones isn't an exploit but it's pretty obvious that the way some groups are using it is broken gameplay that should be addressed.

Huh, that's pretty innovative.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-09-21 00:12:41 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
My thoughts on the matter are:

It's a bullshit mechanic. Possibly one of the top 5 bullshit mechanics in EVE. Even the people who used it in the instance it was just banned in don't deny that. Everyone is just trying to point the hypocrite finger at each other, and I don't really care one way or another.

This does show that it's on CCPs radar though.

And a drone rework is long, long overdue.

I'd like to see it as a major feature of Winter, alongside Drone Region reworks, etc. A whole drone themed expac.

Drone implants please.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#72 - 2013-09-21 00:17:15 UTC
Revman Zim wrote:
I guess I will give some background to why this "issue" is being brought up.

About a week ago (too lazy to check KB) N3 defended a POS from CFC. The bulk of our fleet was in Ishtars with T2 Sentries. We deployed our drones outside of the POS shields, assisted them to the Trigger and then moved to just inside the POS shields. CFC showed up and got FACERAPED.

That is why they and their alts are here whining. Instead of figuring out a counter, they will whine on the forums and to CCP about how the game is "unfair" and how game mechanics are being used to cheat their blob. Which seems pretty ironic.

Now, I will say that if someone with some smarts, moved a SBing BS into the ball of sentries, they would have wiped our entire DPS off the field. But that is too "hard".

Yes this is my main. No I don't give a ****.


tell us more about countering ships in a pos shield

lol, s2n

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-09-21 00:19:58 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Just to be clear the exploit was pilots assigning their drones and then hiding in a POS where they couldn't be shot. The fundamental mechanic of assigning drones isn't an exploit but it's pretty obvious that the way some groups are using it is broken gameplay that should be addressed.

Wow. N3 gets creative to find a viable counter to CFCs use of 'damps on EVERYTHING!' and now it is being regarded as broken gameplay.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-09-21 00:21:39 UTC
ahahaha yeah let's call straight up exploiting "being creative"

if we did that you and the chaff that make up your dumpster grade coalition would be bawwwing all over the forums about the big bad goon exploits

Twitter: @EVEAndski

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#75 - 2013-09-21 00:22:32 UTC
it's totally unfair that ccp declared an exploit that allows you to engage in a fight without being at risk an exploit

clearly, ccp works against you

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-09-21 00:22:47 UTC
this is why your alliance is trash

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-09-21 00:24:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Aiwha
Posting in a stealth BL tears thread.


EDIT: with a side order of goonfleet whine.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-09-21 00:25:29 UTC
Andski wrote:
this is why your alliance is trash


...among other reasons.

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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#79 - 2013-09-21 00:47:00 UTC
Andski wrote:


tell us more about countering ships in a pos shield

How many bombs does it take to kill a sentry drone?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#80 - 2013-09-21 00:49:52 UTC
Are there any other tricks you can do in a pos

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