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Why are capitals banned in high sec?

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triplleboy
Malum Mortuus
#121 - 2013-09-24 11:26:01 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Yet another thing that make the various security sectors different.

The difference isn't a bad thing.


Nice char picture, with that sleeve on ur arm
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#122 - 2013-09-24 18:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
UmbraIra wrote:
I cant think of a reason for it. Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship and theyre not really useful for ganking due to damage application vs non capitals. Ship restrictions seem against the spirit of the game.

Is CCP afraid of Jita 4-4 exploding in a glorious rain of doomsday weapons? (Note I am unaware if NPC stations can even take damage)




Yes this whole restiction is stupid things that make opened universe look unrealistic, in RL tanks or carriers are able to explole air and sea-oceans withoult limits , here no things like you cant enter this ocean because bla bla bla, well capitals are not allowed in some regions because of game mechanic howerver this still give stupid look at this matter.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#123 - 2013-09-24 18:29:51 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
UmbraIra wrote:
I cant think of a reason for it. Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship and theyre not really useful for ganking due to damage application vs non capitals. Ship restrictions seem against the spirit of the game.

Is CCP afraid of Jita 4-4 exploding in a glorious rain of doomsday weapons? (Note I am unaware if NPC stations can even take damage)




Yes this whole restiction is stupid things that make opened universe look unrealistic, in RL tanks or carriers are able to explole air and seas withoult limits but military order, here no things like you cant neter this ocean because bla bla bla, well capitals are not allowed in some regions because of game mechanic hoverwer this still give stupid look at this matter.


So Russia can just park its tanks in Atlanta, Georgia whenever it wants. Cause your suggesting that (for example) titans from the CFC (Sovereign entity) should be allowed to park in Jita (Part of the Caldari Sovereign entity).
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#124 - 2013-09-24 18:32:17 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
UmbraIra wrote:
Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship



I wanna see this footage of a Capital Combat Ship exploding at the hands of CONCORD.

NOW !!!!!!!!! Evil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVOrM0e-CVE


No. On TQ.

I must be stupid because I don't understand how one can get Leviathan into a .6 system even on Sisi.

Whatever. Honestly I really don't care.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#125 - 2013-09-24 18:34:58 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I must be stupid because I don't understand how one can get Leviathan into a .6 system even on Sisi.
Buy one and undock.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#126 - 2013-09-24 18:35:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
UmbraIra wrote:
I cant think of a reason for it. Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship and theyre not really useful for ganking due to damage application vs non capitals. Ship restrictions seem against the spirit of the game.

Is CCP afraid of Jita 4-4 exploding in a glorious rain of doomsday weapons? (Note I am unaware if NPC stations can even take damage)




Yes this whole restiction is stupid things that make opened universe look unrealistic, in RL tanks or carriers are able to explole air and seas withoult limits but military order, here no things like you cant neter this ocean because bla bla bla, well capitals are not allowed in some regions because of game mechanic hoverwer this still give stupid look at this matter.


So Russia can just park its tanks in Atlanta, Georgia whenever it wants. Cause your suggesting that (for example) titans from the CFC (Sovereign entity) should be allowed to park in Jita (Part of the Caldari Sovereign entity).


Physics allow enter all military class vessels and ships without restriction to any area in earth.... Politics is other thing, If Russians want they can do it in theory because here no limitts to move psyhical obiect with mass to x place on earth... Same like US Army sent own millitary ships to Mediterranean sea zone...

Well i know this is EvE and thier mechanic, for most cases this is good but still unrealitic, since years i see a lot sf games - most single players where even big capital size ships fly and move betwen diffirent areas without ohhhh wait cyno jammer... or somthing like this.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#127 - 2013-09-24 18:39:01 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
UmbraIra wrote:
I cant think of a reason for it. Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship and theyre not really useful for ganking due to damage application vs non capitals. Ship restrictions seem against the spirit of the game.

Is CCP afraid of Jita 4-4 exploding in a glorious rain of doomsday weapons? (Note I am unaware if NPC stations can even take damage)




Yes this whole restiction is stupid things that make opened universe look unrealistic, in RL tanks or carriers are able to explole air and seas withoult limits but military order, here no things like you cant neter this ocean because bla bla bla, well capitals are not allowed in some regions because of game mechanic hoverwer this still give stupid look at this matter.


So Russia can just park its tanks in Atlanta, Georgia whenever it wants. Cause your suggesting that (for example) titans from the CFC (Sovereign entity) should be allowed to park in Jita (Part of the Caldari Sovereign entity).


Physics allow enter all military class vessels and ships without restriction to any area in earth.... Politics is other thing, If Russians want they can do it in theory because here no limitts to move psyhical obiect with mass to x place on earth...



Well, in the physics of eve there's this thing called a cyno jammer...
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#128 - 2013-09-24 19:04:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
UmbraIra wrote:
I cant think of a reason for it. Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship and theyre not really useful for ganking due to damage application vs non capitals. Ship restrictions seem against the spirit of the game.

Is CCP afraid of Jita 4-4 exploding in a glorious rain of doomsday weapons? (Note I am unaware if NPC stations can even take damage)




Yes this whole restiction is stupid things that make opened universe look unrealistic, in RL tanks or carriers are able to explole air and seas withoult limits but military order, here no things like you cant neter this ocean because bla bla bla, well capitals are not allowed in some regions because of game mechanic hoverwer this still give stupid look at this matter.


So Russia can just park its tanks in Atlanta, Georgia whenever it wants. Cause your suggesting that (for example) titans from the CFC (Sovereign entity) should be allowed to park in Jita (Part of the Caldari Sovereign entity).

You realize that Concord doesn't actually exist so they're unable to care if someone parked their titan in Jita.

Although you have bought up a pretty valid point, the first one in this thread that makes any real sense. Capitals in Jita would be a PITA. Getting stuck on one of those would suck. Something about a poet n didn't know it.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#129 - 2013-09-24 22:09:49 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I must be stupid because I don't understand how one can get Leviathan into a .6 system even on Sisi.
Buy one and undock.

Supers aren't on market on sisi.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#130 - 2013-09-24 22:16:19 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I must be stupid because I don't understand how one can get Leviathan into a .6 system even on Sisi.
Buy one and undock.

Supers aren't on market on sisi.



That I actually did know. Smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#131 - 2013-09-25 06:54:10 UTC
Finger points at Chribba murdering roids in his Veldernought Pirate

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#132 - 2013-09-25 07:02:02 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
UmbraIra wrote:
I cant think of a reason for it. Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship and theyre not really useful for ganking due to damage application vs non capitals. Ship restrictions seem against the spirit of the game.

Is CCP afraid of Jita 4-4 exploding in a glorious rain of doomsday weapons? (Note I am unaware if NPC stations can even take damage)




Yes this whole restiction is stupid things that make opened universe look unrealistic, in RL tanks or carriers are able to explole air and sea-oceans withoult limits , here no things like you cant enter this ocean because bla bla bla, well capitals are not allowed in some regions because of game mechanic howerver this still give stupid look at this matter.


Go buy a a main battle tank and roll it down your capitals streets.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#133 - 2013-09-25 09:08:25 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
UmbraIra wrote:
I cant think of a reason for it. Concord Melts them just as fast as any other ship and theyre not really useful for ganking due to damage application vs non capitals. Ship restrictions seem against the spirit of the game.

Is CCP afraid of Jita 4-4 exploding in a glorious rain of doomsday weapons? (Note I am unaware if NPC stations can even take damage)




Yes this whole restiction is stupid things that make opened universe look unrealistic, in RL tanks or carriers are able to explole air and sea-oceans withoult limits , here no things like you cant enter this ocean because bla bla bla, well capitals are not allowed in some regions because of game mechanic howerver this still give stupid look at this matter.


Go buy a a main battle tank and roll it down your capitals streets.

There are quite a lot of military vehicles which are privately owned. Weapons disabled in most cases. However the analogy you made doesnt really apply to EvE since we owned and operate ships up to battleship class and at least one dread is in highsec already.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#134 - 2013-09-25 10:06:49 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Infinity Ziona wrote:

There are quite a lot of military vehicles which are privately owned. Weapons disabled in most cases. However the analogy you made doesnt really apply to EvE since we owned and operate ships up to battleship class and at least one dread is in highsec already.


Go fly a military Iranian jet over America.

Hell, try flying an American registered plane over somewhere like the white house or area 51.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#135 - 2013-09-25 11:10:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

There are quite a lot of military vehicles which are privately owned. Weapons disabled in most cases. However the analogy you made doesnt really apply to EvE since we owned and operate ships up to battleship class and at least one dread is in highsec already.


Go fly a military Iranian jet over America.

Hell, try flying an American registered plane over somewhere like the white house or area 51.

Like I said that doesnt make sense. Try landing in Israel if you're a member of Hezbollah. In EvE I can use a Macharial in Amarr. I can dock in Jita if Im -10 to them.

The analogy doesn't work.

They don't actually even exist so they really don't care. Lore is pointless in EvE to explain game mechanics imo. There are too many exceptions.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#136 - 2013-09-25 11:10:58 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I must be stupid because I don't understand how one can get Leviathan into a .6 system even on Sisi.
Buy one and undock.

Supers aren't on market on sisi.

They are when they need to be. Such is the nature of the test server. After that, it's just a matter of hoping that they'll wait a while before the next character mirroring so you can enjoy your 100-stack of Erebuses. P
Lady Areola Fappington
#137 - 2013-09-25 11:32:36 UTC
Tippia wrote:

They are when they need to be. Such is the nature of the test server. After that, it's just a matter of hoping that they'll wait a while before the next character mirroring so you can enjoy your 100-stack of Erebuses. P



I believe that the proper plurality of that is "Erebii", Tippia, as in: "Damnit, PL dropped a fuckton of Erebii on my noobship"

Even if it's not, it sounds cooler.....and this thread needs a Tippia argument.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#138 - 2013-09-25 11:44:42 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

There are quite a lot of military vehicles which are privately owned. Weapons disabled in most cases. However the analogy you made doesnt really apply to EvE since we owned and operate ships up to battleship class and at least one dread is in highsec already.


Go fly a military Iranian jet over America.

Hell, try flying an American registered plane over somewhere like the white house or area 51.

area 51, jove space

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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#139 - 2013-09-25 11:47:15 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
....and this thread needs a Tippia argument.
Did you miss the last 4 pages? Shocked

Who put the goat in there?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#140 - 2013-09-25 11:50:14 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I believe that the proper plurality of that is "Erebii", Tippia, as in: "Damnit, PL dropped a fuckton of Erebii on my noobship"

Even if it's not, it sounds cooler.....and this thread needs a Tippia argument.

General rule of of ancient plurals: if you think it ends with -ii, it doesn't.