Player Features and Ideas Discussion

In this particular case, you are not; but were you to declare war on a corporation that has invested time and resources on setting up a POS, things would be immensely different.

To tell the truth, this actually sounds like a whine. You're asking for a change where most people (and CCP) see no issue.

For someone who once signed onto a corp with a death wish, I appreciated the ability to leave the corp and not have to have the war follow me around. Basically that 24h period should be the time when all the people no longer interested in fighting one more losing war with their corporation can jump ship and find someplace else that doesn't enjoy losing a few billion ISK every day.

That might have merit if implemented as a separate option than wars. We have wars, militia, why not personal wars? Draft a proposal and we will see.



So they leave 1 minute after the war starts and the bill is still paid and not much changes except... someone has many alt-corps and decides to "block" a corp so he wardecks them every 23 hours and 55 minutes and nobody is able to leave that corp for a price of 50mils/day. A steep price, I admit, but it's doable and some peps go to far bigger bills just to annoy others and that would be bad IMHO.



That seems the nicest one until now. It has some drawbacks for honest peps as well but I think they might be minor.



Like you're trying to bully a thread and troll a discussion based on real arguments? Thank God for ignore. The BEST weapon on Internet.



Someone sees you at a gate in an indy, wants to avoid losing status and ships so they dec your corp and starts shooting in seconds. Instead of cheap 2-3 ganking ships they will start using large fleets of expensive mega-weapon platforms as they don't risk anymore losing them to CONCORD. It would bring a lot of war to highsec but overall I'd say... not good. It should be at least some time before wardec and actual shooting without CONCORD interference and stat losing. As most people log in at least once a day, 24h seems reasonable to me.

Again someone who posts and doesn't read the thread.
It is, several times, said specifically that its the 'bill and stasis period', not the actual fights/war thats being discussed here.

Read that again.

If wardecs are evaded before it goes live, there is a problem.

The fact that most Eve players seems to wanting no-risk isk harvesting, and don't care about multiplayer nature of Eve, is a problem but not covered within this thread.

The claim that most 'empire pvp'ers' are scared griefing bullies and should go to lowsec and null where 'real men pvp' is so clueless a statement that is also far beyond the grasp of this thread.

This thread is about the 24 hour stasis time where corp A pays a bill to causes a disruption in the playstyle of corp B, and corp B within game mechanics can nullify the said action, leaving wardecs pointless.

The motives behind said actions, whether its cowardize, griefing etc. is seperate discussions.

first, the problem its that, you believe that PVP only means pew pew in EVE , following the nature of EVE, its basic player interaction . second what you want its that, people that its not interested in fighting against you, loose money because they simple put themselves aside your attempt to drag them to a fight; you want them to loose, because you risk your own isk and you loose it too (speaking about " most Eve players seems to wanting no-risk isk harvesting". )

and to put it simple, the stasis period its because, in general people in high sec are not focusing on that "pew pew" pvp and they dedicate their activities to some other type of profit or fun like mining or pve mostly so when you wardec them what do you spec them to do? , their are simply not prepare to war, and since its High sec CCP, gave them the OPTION to not fight you

usually people tend to skip the meta game on EVE, i´m not saying that wars are gentleman's agreements, but if your plan its to travel between systems in high sec, looking for small corps or industrial corps or, in this case, someone who simply wants to step aside and do some isk for its projects, and plan to wardec them, and achieve something more than a 50 mill loss, well do it at your own risk

the fee, its there to avoid people decing just to be annoying, to prove that if you are going to war you are committed to it, even if, the targeted corp its not; and if you achieve that's your reward or whatever you were planing to do there, but if you not, well you did your bet and you lost, as anything else in the game.