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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2013-09-24 23:35:39 UTC
Garandras wrote:

and it was pretty much a -A- Vs Everyone senerio there...


-A- is so good at making allies though!

Like starting a war with the only entity that didnt help kick -A- out the second you regained some of your space! ^_^

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#142 - 2013-09-25 01:00:12 UTC
Well you can join N3 to get revenge. I'm sure if the CFC tries anything (since you're next door), it'll be The Mittani's last mistake again and N3 will come down to help, since progodlegend has a proven history of intervening in conflicts with the CFC

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#143 - 2013-09-25 01:02:19 UTC
ncdor might appear if there isn't action anywhere else

For example, if someone pokes their renters too hard they'll have to go and help them because those renters are for the sake of destroying gsf

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#144 - 2013-09-25 01:05:31 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
ncdor might appear if there isn't action anywhere else

For example, if someone pokes their renters too hard they'll have to go and help them because those renters are for the sake of destroying gsf


Everything is for the sake of destroying the CFC.
Maliandra
Doomheim
#145 - 2013-09-25 01:23:23 UTC
The day the CFC collapses is probably the day they want to collapse. Knowing the personalties the goons promote having, if a few of their leaders we're gonna leave the game I could definitely see them finding a way to really mess up the alliance as their form of a goodbye present.

Another strategy is to promote the propaganda that these guys are - at the highest level - some of the most shameful human beings imaginable. I'm not saying all of them, and I'm definitely not saying it applies to the entire member base. However let's consider that the Goon's very own webpage uses homophobic and racists terms on a constant basis. I can't be the only one who think that is despicable.. Out of their supposed 25,000 members or whatever it is, I'm sure there's hundreds that would consider leaving if they knew the leaders use those terms in this day and age.

It's up to those who've had the misfortune of communicating with the CFC leaders to expose them for what they really are. Post the convos, post the things they say and how they act. You will find thousands of people will be unable to justify sticking around knowing this is public knowledge and they are effectively associating themselves with all I have mentioned above by continuing to sport CFC colors.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#146 - 2013-09-25 01:44:34 UTC
Yeah we have to prove our innocence by killing ourselves as it were

Redeeming our honor by disbanding the alliance and quitting eve forever

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#147 - 2013-09-25 02:46:34 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Marie Curie FTW wrote:
Who is CFC and who is N3? I don't see either of their names on that map. There is lots of pretty colours though.

Essentially CFC is the left and N3 is the right.


Confirming that the CFC is a glorious communist paradise and N3 are nazis.

That's what you meant, right?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#148 - 2013-09-25 03:02:22 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Marie Curie FTW wrote:
Who is CFC and who is N3? I don't see either of their names on that map. There is lots of pretty colours though.

Essentially CFC is the left and N3 is the right.


Confirming that the CFC is a glorious communist paradise and N3 are nazis.

That's what you meant, right?

They do exist to wipe us out...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#149 - 2013-09-25 03:50:01 UTC
Maliandra wrote:
Gewns and their blues are bad people...

Tell errybody how bad these bad people are... Out of their supposed 25,000 members or whatever it is, I'm sure there's hundreds that would consider leaving if they knew the leaders use those terms in this day and age.

Dudes will leave..CFC will fold because their leadership uses le bad words at times...


I don't think you get it.
Homophobic and racist slurs are used by generally intelligent and well intentioned people IN GAME in an ironic way for the purpose of humor and morale. An FC might tell someone they aren't aligned, including that they are a worthless mass of faeces with questionable sexuality, the pilot referred to can retort with a short counter accusation without shoiting up comms too much.
Like local smack, the most sincerely hateful and toxic stuff comes from wretched little pets and irrelevant clowns. Personally i've always preferred the mindless, coprophagic goblin style of smack to any of the political leetness jibes.
TEST and the CFC had very similar versions of this and for a while there the only difference i could spot was Goons have a professed disdain for the game not often seen in TEST. Both had a culture of having a thick skin combined with a cheerful attitude towards the occasional shotting of blues, again, for the purposes of humor and morale.

Dread pilot i met once who called everybody N-WORD turned out to be not a racist, very funny, fun to fly with and an asset to my spaecships experience.

You will not defeat anyone in EvE with accusations of being non-PC.



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Frillo Teslar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#150 - 2013-09-25 06:05:16 UTC
Alliances are so careful these days. To really see a big power shift there needs to be an all out supercap war. Asakai every week. The last big northern war where Northern Coalition died and many alliances lost all their supers was like that. There would be battles with 5-10 dead titans on each side.
Subcab losses can't really kill an alliance, only scare the members away.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#151 - 2013-09-25 06:24:50 UTC
Frillo Teslar wrote:
Subcab losses can't really kill an alliance, only scare the members away.

An alliance without members

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#152 - 2013-09-25 06:33:05 UTC
Maliandra wrote:
The day the CFC collapses is probably the day they want to collapse. Knowing the personalties the goons promote having, if a few of their leaders we're gonna leave the game I could definitely see them finding a way to really mess up the alliance as their form of a goodbye present.

Another strategy is to promote the propaganda that these guys are - at the highest level - some of the most shameful human beings imaginable. I'm not saying all of them, and I'm definitely not saying it applies to the entire member base. However let's consider that the Goon's very own webpage uses homophobic and racists terms on a constant basis. I can't be the only one who think that is despicable.. Out of their supposed 25,000 members or whatever it is, I'm sure there's hundreds that would consider leaving if they knew the leaders use those terms in this day and age.

It's up to those who've had the misfortune of communicating with the CFC leaders to expose them for what they really are. Post the convos, post the things they say and how they act. You will find thousands of people will be unable to justify sticking around knowing this is public knowledge and they are effectively associating themselves with all I have mentioned above by continuing to sport CFC colors.


Remember, while CCP officially states they abhor that kind of language and behaviour, at the same time they have created a construct (Eve), that attracts the worst kind of people, and actually rewards sociopathic behaviour in game.

It is little wonder that goons are highly successful in Eve, much like how a very large percentage of real life corporations are run by sociopaths, because the successful capitalist corporation by definition acts like a psychopath, and sociopathic actions within a corporation are rewarded.

And just like the construct of a modern corporation, Eve rewards those that lie, cheat, and crush all opposition, by any means possible.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#153 - 2013-09-25 06:34:46 UTC
Goons: Bad People

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#154 - 2013-09-25 06:36:07 UTC
on the other hand, progodlegend, now there's someone you should throw your love and support behind

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Prince Kobol
#155 - 2013-09-25 06:39:24 UTC
Maliandra wrote:


Another strategy is to promote the propaganda that these guys are - at the highest level - some of the most shameful human beings imaginable. I'm not saying all of them, and I'm definitely not saying it applies to the entire member base. However let's consider that the Goon's very own webpage uses homophobic and racists terms on a constant basis. I can't be the only one who think that is despicable.. Out of their supposed 25,000 members or whatever it is, I'm sure there's hundreds that would consider leaving if they knew the leaders use those terms in this day and age.

It's up to those who've had the misfortune of communicating with the CFC leaders to expose them for what they really are. Post the convos, post the things they say and how they act. You will find thousands of people will be unable to justify sticking around knowing this is public knowledge and they are effectively associating themselves with all I have mentioned above by continuing to sport CFC colors.



Some Goons think using racist and homophobic terms is just having a little fun and that if you take offence then quite obviously it is your fault for being too sensitive.

However I wager that those who like to constantly use these words in game wouldn't dare speak them to your face in rl.

I will not label all goons as sad pathetic little people who think constantly using the word ni**er and j*w is cool, but it is accept by all.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#156 - 2013-09-25 06:44:43 UTC
You might as well just say goon are terrible star star star star starstarstarstarstarstarstarstarstar

I mean it's pretty much what everyone thinks anyway, thus the need to form coalitions around reasons like "to destroy gsf"

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#157 - 2013-09-25 08:16:45 UTC
Ka'Narlist wrote:
Please show me where goons steamrolled ~300 systems in 2-3 days


Apperently, someone wasn't paying attention to Delve...
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#158 - 2013-09-25 08:43:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Maliandra wrote:
However let's consider that the Goon's very own webpage uses homophobic and racists terms on a constant basis.


What webpage?

If you're talking about TMC, you're pretty much dead wrong because editors will reject an article if the author uses racist, sexist, transphobic or homophobic language - and you'll have nothing to expose to CFC people because a large number of them would have already read whatever article you're talking about. If you're talking about GF.com, what exactly are you going to expose if, well, everyone in the CFC has access to those forums? And if you're talking about SA, using racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic language in your posts is a pretty easy way to turn your account into a waste of $10 USD.

Of course, you are an NPC alt poster so it's not beyond doubt that you're making stuff up vov

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Prince Kobol
#159 - 2013-09-25 09:07:36 UTC
Andski wrote:
Maliandra wrote:
However let's consider that the Goon's very own webpage uses homophobic and racists terms on a constant basis.


What webpage?

If you're talking about TMC, you're pretty much dead wrong because editors will reject an article if the author uses racist, sexist, transphobic or homophobic language - and you'll have nothing to expose to CFC people because a large number of them would have already read whatever article you're talking about. If you're talking about GF.com, what exactly are you going to expose if, well, everyone in the CFC has access to those forums? And if you're talking about SA, using racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic language in your posts is a pretty easy way to turn your account into a waste of $10 USD.

Of course, you are an NPC alt poster so it's not beyond doubt that you're making stuff up vov


Lol.. I honestly can not believe you are trying to say that that goon comms and forums are not full of people using racist, sexist, transphobic or homophobic language.

I mean damn we know you guys like to spin but at least try to spin something remotely believable.

As for TMC.. most comments are full of people using this type of language.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#160 - 2013-09-25 11:46:14 UTC
lol tmc comments, the ones made by bitter people who've gotten their homes burned down by dabigreboat and/or lyris nairn

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?