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Why are people so averse to risk taking?
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Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-09-19 14:32:52 UTC
Anybody who says Low-sec is dead hasn't been in FW. There are fights literally everywhere.

Dying in Eve is different because you lose all of your modules and your ship. Non-PvP'ers see this as a bad thing and don't even try to PvP because they get connected with their missioning/mining ships. PvPers know that their ships are already as good as dead.

Not being afraid to fly into danger is a skill you just have to learn. And many people don't even try. You just have to gain that association that the ship you are flying is disposable.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#42 - 2013-09-19 14:41:22 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
Anybody who says Low-sec is dead hasn't been in FW. There are fights literally everywhere.

Dying in Eve is different because you lose all of your modules and your ship. Non-PvP'ers see this as a bad thing and don't even try to PvP because they get connected with their missioning/mining ships. PvPers know that their ships are already as good as dead.

Not being afraid to fly into danger is a skill you just have to learn. And many people don't even try. You just have to gain that association that the ship you are flying is disposable.


Confirmin the truthiness of this.

Never fly what you can't avoid to lose. Never loiter in Old Man's Star system unless you've got teeth. If you're scared, go get podded - repeatedly - until it loses its sting.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#43 - 2013-09-19 15:22:00 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
My problem with PVP is that it takes more time than running a mission.

Most of the time.

Gate games happen too fast. Cool


Red vs Blue, PvP fleet form up to fight can take less than 20 minutes.
Kiarra Steele
My Best Friend Is An Emu
Get Jiggy Wit It
#44 - 2013-09-19 15:41:11 UTC
Why are people so averse to risk taking ?

Because they're saving up all their isk so they can buy a PLEX and play the game for free.

...

 
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#45 - 2013-09-19 16:09:51 UTC
A lot of the time its just that people are bored and looking for something to kill. When someone finds a target everyone wants to blow stuff up so they join in.

Not today spaghetti.
Commander Spurty
#46 - 2013-09-19 16:31:50 UTC
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And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-09-19 21:58:57 UTC
People who lack the averseness to risk often make glorious kill mails where everyone in the game points and laughs at them for such behavior and the magnitude of their loss.

Unless you feel like flying around in a shuttle with 50 plex in hopes someone shoots you.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#48 - 2013-09-20 01:28:19 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
My problem with PVP is that it takes more time than running a mission.

Most of the time.

Gate games happen too fast. Cool

Red vs Blue, PvP fleet form up to fight can take less than 20 minutes.

Multi-hour fleets of shooting structures

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ougaa Baalstomp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-09-20 07:41:21 UTC
'Why are people so adverse to risk taking?'

Because everything anything risky in thisgame (fun stuff) means you have to replace stuff with ISK which is MIND NUMBINGLY BORING to obtain in almost every way.

Once someone has ground enough to purchase say a capital or T3, they never want to have to do it again, or at least not as a regular occurence..

You know I'm talking sense here.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2013-09-20 08:17:56 UTC
It's a cross contaminated carebear thing.

In the early days of EvE there were Care Bears and Pirates. Carebears lived in highsec and pirates lived in low and null. The pirates would pretty much attack anyone either alone or in groups. They were real Pirates. The Care Bears hated the pirates. They were real Care Bears.

Then a funny thing happened, some of the Carebears migrated to null sec (probably as a result of an incorrect waypoint setting during a MoO holiday combined with autopilot). And just like most cancers they multiplied.

At first when other Carebears came into their areas they would dock up and wait while their precious bistot, gneiss and npc's were 'stolen' but then one day, one particularly greedy bear lost the plot undocked his entire fleet of 20 mining Apocs and unleashed a rain of (initially miner IIs) combat drones on that stealer of rocks.

This was the first null bear. The word spread and alliances and coalitions were formed.






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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#51 - 2013-09-20 08:24:48 UTC
Ougaa Baalstomp wrote:
Because everything anything risky in thisgame (fun stuff) means you have to replace stuff with ISK which is MIND NUMBINGLY BORING to obtain in almost every way.

Once someone has ground enough to purchase say a capital or T3, they never want to have to do it again, or at least not as a regular occurence..

Good thing test alliance learned how to STOP BEING POOR during an earlier conflict

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Cavalira
Habemus
#52 - 2013-09-20 08:27:47 UTC
~Create your own reality, and don't wait for happiness~
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#53 - 2013-09-20 10:18:03 UTC
burning hot happiness all over your face?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#54 - 2013-09-20 11:20:56 UTC
Yeah look i saw some fighters abandoned a short d-scan from a gate. Some locals would ninja PVE some faction ship blueprints out of sites. If they got spotted they would just split and leave these 20+m isk frigate sized drones around.
So i fit a drake for probing, which isn't as simple as slapping on a launcher, to pinpoint something small you have to gimp it's fightability.
There i am finding these expensive knick-knacks when SUDDENLY TENGU UNCLOAKS
zOMGOMGOGM deploy 5 small ecm drones.
He loses point, i fly away.
Local tears = "Ecm eeeewwww"
But i'm all like: "Ecm is the new black darling"

T3 pilots don't often seem to bother much about their sensor strength.
The three kinds of people i've encountered who are not risk averse are: psychopaths, idiots, brain injured.
OP troll leads to ok thread, nice.




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ZAKURELL0 LINDA
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2013-09-21 01:15:00 UTC
Kiarra Steele wrote:
Why are people so averse to risk taking ?

Because they're saving up all their isk so they can buy a PLEX and play the game for free.

that takes a week of mining, or 1 weekend of carebear ratting, in null-sec......
so wt about the remaining 3 weeks plus?

RIP Iron Lady
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-09-21 01:16:45 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
It's a cross contaminated carebear thing.

In the early days of EvE there were Care Bears and Pirates. Carebears lived in highsec and pirates lived in low and null. The pirates would pretty much attack anyone either alone or in groups. They were real Pirates. The Care Bears hated the pirates. They were real Care Bears.

Then a funny thing happened, some of the Carebears migrated to null sec (probably as a result of an incorrect waypoint setting during a MoO holiday combined with autopilot). And just like most cancers they multiplied.

At first when other Carebears came into their areas they would dock up and wait while their precious bistot, gneiss and npc's were 'stolen' but then one day, one particularly greedy bear lost the plot undocked his entire fleet of 20 mining Apocs and unleashed a rain of (initially miner IIs) combat drones on that stealer of rocks.

This was the first null bear. The word spread and alliances and coalitions were formed.


You should stop kicking TEST when they're down. Not cool

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#57 - 2013-09-21 01:25:58 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
It's a cross contaminated carebear thing.

In the early days of EvE there were Care Bears and Pirates. Carebears lived in highsec and pirates lived in low and null. The pirates would pretty much attack anyone either alone or in groups. They were real Pirates. The Care Bears hated the pirates. They were real Care Bears.

Then a funny thing happened, some of the Carebears migrated to null sec (probably as a result of an incorrect waypoint setting during a MoO holiday combined with autopilot). And just like most cancers they multiplied.

At first when other Carebears came into their areas they would dock up and wait while their precious bistot, gneiss and npc's were 'stolen' but then one day, one particularly greedy bear lost the plot undocked his entire fleet of 20 mining Apocs and unleashed a rain of (initially miner IIs) combat drones on that stealer of rocks.

This was the first null bear. The word spread and alliances and coalitions were formed.


You should stop kicking TEST when they're down. Not cool


Confirming that making fun of TEST is no longer completely hilarious.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#58 - 2013-09-21 02:38:18 UTC
I heard sirmolle joined ncdot

So now he is in the coalition that exists to destroy GSF

However, his alliance in reality will come to fight if it's virtually the only place there is action so

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2013-09-21 02:49:21 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
I heard sirmolle joined ncdot

So now he is in the coalition that exists to destroy GSF

However, his alliance in reality will come to fight if it's virtually the only place there is action so


SirMolle and LadyScarlet are in the same alliance again...the band is getting back together

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#60 - 2013-09-21 02:51:14 UTC
I see progodlegend's plan is drawing together

Soon finfleet?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?