Player Features and Ideas Discussion

problem is its prior new content that has lead to the rebalancing ccp is focused on.

The t3 you mentioned. Until recently it did links better. It for a while now has slowly been chipping away at the viability of t2 cruisers. Mix with so many isk faucets if you have good isk skills....losing t3 not much different from losing a well fit hac in the grand scheme of things.


And we had the pirate boats. I will jsut look at frigates. Way back in the day the angry mob of frigate loving pilots was crying out "Fix our damn frigates !". CCP said how about these new shiny pirate frigs. For players like you this was liked. for players who actually wanted to fly their say AF's they said well great....we had several reasons to not fly these now we have even more reasons.

Dramiel shows the dangers to shiny new toys when you have current game issues.. New super sexy ships introduced to prey on ships in need of some love and bad things can and will happen.

And the punchline. t1 and t2 frigs still needed their fixing and they had to do it at some point anyway.

this game has grown bigger and bigger for the last 10 years. we have an add on patch after another add on after another and things are WAY out of balance.
this is honestly the best thing that can be done before we CAN move onto bigger and better things.

we have SO many ships now thet were just created and the rest havent changed since day 1.

this time, we step back, create a common frame of power, make the t2 ships skew away in their own little way that makes them specialized, then set it in stone.

once we have this level set, everything else they create can be made for a certain power level and most ships will be competitive. some like the t3 still need major work. the marauders and blops, ewar frigs, etc etc. need to be tuned for todays power level. once this happens, itll be a better pace.

Actually, it's a very good measure of growth ... 1000 new accounts may only mean 821 new players, but it does mean a 1000 new income streams. Sounds like growth to me!

In eve existing perfect balance nowadays, because of expensive ship always wing against cheap.

+3% to naga speed -2% of abaddon health, hard work as is.

Point is not if ship rebalncing is good or bad, of course is good.

Problem is since some years they're not improving EVE in any way, they moved their focus on other products, projects and platform, and they using ship rebalancing to hide this.

Ship rebalancing is nothing new, CCP always made it. Only in the past it was just a sidenote in EVE expansion cause there was far more. Since Cruccible they started to promote it cause there were (and they are) unable to release anything substantial in EVE gameplay.

Is not like ship rebalancing started with Cruccible. Always was made in the same way. The only change is that thay started to advertise it more and to give more feedback: only a change in comunication, real work and effort is the same.

This was to give the impression they're working on EVE. Seriously, are onlyt sql updates on a table, not like they need to call engeneers from NASA to rebalance ships :)

Ok admit its True, CCP could easely introduce things like Decoy Ships or completly revamp Incurions so its a Real issue.

Both ways giving the Player the Tools and giving us Game provided content could work.

In my opinion anything that moves PvP away from Gates and Station is welcome.

Dammit OP I hate what they did to tracking enhancers and don't like all the balancing changes at all but I think CCP is doing a good job and they should continue.

Balancing changes were needed and the content they created is in the form of new useful ships and roles they fill.

Remember all game content in EVE is 'End Game'. Compared to other MMO's EVE has a crazy amount of 'End Game' content. Most MMO's roll out content that is only designed to actually be played for 6-12 months before the next level cap raise invalidates it all.

Can't argue with that but introducing sth like decoy ships doesn't seem a good way of doing this. I mean probably that would be easiest way of pulling people away from undocks and gates but on the other hand it is kind of like with "move L4 missions to lowsec and people will leave hisec" threads. People won't move, they will just grind more L3s. People who would move are already there.

Anyway, whatever they will give us better be more than just +/- on ships' attributes. As said ad nauseam balancing is great but new things wouldn't hurt either.