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Player morality in EVE online. Why did you leave it at the door?

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#981 - 2011-12-09 14:21:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
ThatOleSerpent wrote:
LAWLs


The response of a truly great mind. One that can somehow connect intergalactic space homo-retards into one eloquent post, and then pretend like he is the model product of a higher education.

...& all in the same post.



Now that is def a LAWL in capital letters if ever there was one.

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#982 - 2011-12-09 14:28:26 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
ThatOleSerpent wrote:
LAWLs


The response of a truly great mind. One that can somehow connect intergalactic space homo-retards into one eloquent post, and then pretend like he is the model product of a higher education.

...& all in the same post.



Now that is def a LAWL in capital letters if ever there was one.


Intergalactic Space Homo-Retards, that's a good name for a corp/alliance.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
ThatOleSerpent
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#983 - 2011-12-09 14:28:43 UTC
It so funny to watch people inflate their egos with all their convictions and notions of honor and grandeur. Almost all arguments these days are meaningless because of selective abstraction. Everyone clambers to justify themselves like anyone actually gives a hoot. I am not Stupid or narrow minded, I simply don't care if I say something you do not like. Real world, these conversations are amongst some of the nerdiest I have ever seen.




T.F.B.F.
ThatOleSerpent
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#984 - 2011-12-09 14:30:29 UTC
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
ThatOleSerpent wrote:
LAWLs


The response of a truly great mind. One that can somehow connect intergalactic space homo-retards into one eloquent post, and then pretend like he is the model product of a higher education.

...& all in the same post.



Now that is def a LAWL in capital letters if ever there was one.


Intergalactic Space Homo-Retards, that's a good name for a corp/alliance.



thanks boo <3

T.F.B.F.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#985 - 2011-12-09 14:31:47 UTC
50 damb pages going on about whether it's OK to blow up spaceships in a game that's about blowing up spaceships. Roll



This is what we get from having high unemployment.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#986 - 2011-12-09 14:40:24 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Pathetic.
Not even close to pulling your fail trolling out of the gutter.


You stated it, you thought it up and I did not. I have nothing to say about your close minded idea born of an extremely narrow view and small mind. Why don't you tell me what you meant instead, then perhaps I may have something to say about it.
Now now, let's not get angry. You wanted to interject into the middle of a discussion, if you don't wish to answer the question then fine.

You can tell me about the handbag though, if you wish.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#987 - 2011-12-09 14:43:15 UTC
ThatOleSerpent wrote:
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
ThatOleSerpent wrote:
LAWLs


The response of a truly great mind. One that can somehow connect intergalactic space homo-retards into one eloquent post, and then pretend like he is the model product of a higher education.

...& all in the same post.



Now that is def a LAWL in capital letters if ever there was one.


Intergalactic Space Homo-Retards, that's a good name for a corp/alliance.



thanks boo <3


One luv, niggah.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Sarion Stormweaver
Spectrum Solutions INC
#988 - 2011-12-09 14:55:20 UTC
A nice exercise for the people with .. it's just a game attitude:

Assume you ALONE (nobody else has it or knowledge about it's existence) have a button that when you press you transfer 50$ from someone 's wallet/bank to yours, completely untraceable and completely anonymous. How many times would you use it on:

a) - an enemy (someone who wronged you greatly) ?
b) - a work colleague ?
c) - your boss ?
d) - your employees ?
e) - a best friend ?
f) - someone who you think he gained the money unethically (from your point of view) ?
g) - someone who has a lot of money (and you don't care how he got it) ?
h) - someone in need ?
i) - a random person ?
j) - the state ?
k) - a bank ?
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#989 - 2011-12-09 14:59:59 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Pathetic.
Not even close to pulling your fail trolling out of the gutter.


You stated it, you thought it up and I did not. I have nothing to say about your close minded idea born of an extremely narrow view and small mind. Why don't you tell me what you meant instead, then perhaps I may have something to say about it.
Now now, let's not get angry. You wanted to interject into the middle of a discussion, if you don't wish to answer the question then fine.

You can tell me about the handbag though, if you wish.



Still nothing Cool

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#990 - 2011-12-09 15:03:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
ThatOleSerpent wrote:
It so funny to watch people inflate their egos with all their convictions and notions of honor and grandeur. Almost all arguments these days are meaningless because of selective abstraction. Everyone clambers to justify themselves like anyone actually gives a hoot. I am not Stupid or narrow minded, I simply don't care if I say something you do not like. Real world, these conversations are amongst some of the nerdiest I have ever seen.



A truly open minded person accepts the fact that he may be closed minded to certain things without ever even knowing that he was. He endeavors to see further into things that he does not understand. So basically, only a stupid and narrow minded person would feel the need to state that they are neither.

A truly open minded and intelligent soul would never have to make such a claim...congratulations, you proved my point once again.

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#991 - 2011-12-09 15:07:03 UTC
Sarion Stormweaver wrote:
A nice exercise for the people with .. it's just a game attitude:

Assume you ALONE (nobody else has it or knowledge about it's existence) have a button that when you press you transfer 50$ from someone 's wallet/bank to yours, completely untraceable and completely anonymous. How many times would you use it on:

a) - an enemy (someone who wronged you greatly) ?
b) - a work colleague ?
c) - your boss ?
d) - your employees ?
e) - a best friend ?
f) - someone who you think he gained the money unethically (from your point of view) ?
g) - someone who has a lot of money (and you don't care how he got it) ?
h) - someone in need ?
i) - a random person ?
j) - the state ?
k) - a bank ?


Oooooooh, the who are you in the dark dilemma. Someone's been reading on the internet.

So, how does this change the fact that we are playing make believe characters in a make believe game again?

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Zephyr Monw
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#992 - 2011-12-09 15:07:45 UTC
Why do people leave there morality at the door when playing super Mario. Would you run around jumping on turtles in real life?

Why do people leave there morality at the door when playing Zelda. Would you go into a shop smash eventing and steal all the money in real life?
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#993 - 2011-12-09 15:08:17 UTC
Sarion Stormweaver wrote:
A nice exercise for the people with .. it's just a game attitude:

Assume you ALONE (nobody else has it or knowledge about it's existence) have a button that when you press you transfer 50$ from someone 's wallet/bank to yours, completely untraceable and completely anonymous. How many times would you use it on:

a) - an enemy (someone who wronged you greatly) ?
b) - a work colleague ?
c) - your boss ?
d) - your employees ?
e) - a best friend ?
f) - someone who you think he gained the money unethically (from your point of view) ?
g) - someone who has a lot of money (and you don't care how he got it) ?
h) - someone in need ?
i) - a random person ?
j) - the state ?
k) - a bank ?
"I wouldn't use it on any of them, as I am a moral person"

"Aha! But by destroying someones stuff, which they acquired over time in game, time which they paid a subscription for, you are essentially doing exactly this, which you say is immoral."

"Except that people in the game chose to join the game knowing that they would be risking their time. If you change the context of the question to the button taking money from a bunch of other people who also have a button who all volunteered to be there, you are basically describing a game show, and trying to argue that it is immoral to take money from the other contestants."


Don't mind me, just preempting a direction this could go in.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#994 - 2011-12-09 15:09:06 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Still nothing Cool
About the handbag?

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#995 - 2011-12-09 15:10:28 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Still nothing Cool
About the handbag?



Continue to proclaim your stupidity, I will sit back and watch.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#996 - 2011-12-09 15:12:25 UTC
Zephyr Monw wrote:
Why do people leave there morality at the door when playing super Mario. Would you run around jumping on turtles in real life?


1. This is a stupid analogy that does not apply to a sandbox video game.
2. If the turtles were dangerous and could kill you, or your family, and stomping on them gave you gold coins... would you? Yes you would.


3. Your post is ill conceived and makes no sense.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#997 - 2011-12-09 15:14:26 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Still nothing Cool
About the handbag?



Continue to proclaim your stupidity, I will sit back and watch.
Son I'm disappointed. I did expect you to say it was some obscure reference to handbagging, but alas it was simply an error on your part.

It did make me chuckle though, thanks for that. Big smile

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#998 - 2011-12-09 15:14:31 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
1. I wish this was a stupid analogy that did not apply to a sandbox video game.
FYP

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#999 - 2011-12-09 15:16:05 UTC
I refuse to discuss morality with faceless alts.

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Sarion Stormweaver
Spectrum Solutions INC
#1000 - 2011-12-09 15:18:51 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Sarion Stormweaver wrote:
A nice exercise for the people with .. it's just a game attitude:

Assume you ALONE (nobody else has it or knowledge about it's existence) have a button that when you press you transfer 50$ from someone 's wallet/bank to yours, completely untraceable and completely anonymous. How many times would you use it on:

a) - an enemy (someone who wronged you greatly) ?
b) - a work colleague ?
c) - your boss ?
d) - your employees ?
e) - a best friend ?
f) - someone who you think he gained the money unethically (from your point of view) ?
g) - someone who has a lot of money (and you don't care how he got it) ?
h) - someone in need ?
i) - a random person ?
j) - the state ?
k) - a bank ?
"I wouldn't use it on any of them, as I am a moral person"

"Aha! But by destroying someones stuff, which they acquired over time in game, time which they paid a subscription for, you are essentially doing exactly this, which you say is immoral."

"Except that people in the game chose to join the game knowing that they would be risking their time. If you change the context of the question to the button taking money from a bunch of other people who also have a button who all volunteered to be there, you are basically describing a game show, and trying to argue that it is immoral to take money from the other contestants."


Don't mind me, just preempting a direction this could go in.


:) not at all. I have never said anything about moral or immoral. Morality is relative.I personally always felt bad if I attack someone i didn't know. I know people that don't have this problem, but I do. I usually taunt them into insulting me, or attacking me first so I don't feel remorse when I encounter them+their corp+their alliance :)

And on a side the only exceptions to the button pressed would be: b,d,e,h,i. :)