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Player morality in EVE online. Why did you leave it at the door?

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#681 - 2011-11-04 02:41:27 UTC
Yeah the ones taught at my home is defend the castle mind set.
Forming allainces are often nessecary but you come threatening me or folks I know, gloves off and I will not play fair.

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ImmutableDark
Absalom.
#682 - 2011-11-04 02:41:43 UTC
What's a "morality"?
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#683 - 2011-11-04 02:44:31 UTC
Xiozor wrote:

CCP designed the game to be exactly like this, since 2003 people like you have voiced the same complaints over and over again and have been told in very plain language by the devs that it is a PvP game, deal with it. Stop trying to make EVE into something it isn't, go play Sims 3.


I've never played any other video game, and have no desire to. No Multi-Player games. No RP games.

I was hoping that this would turn into a full immersion space exploration game. That WE could prove we had learned something from several thousand years of war, atrocities, genocide.

I was hoping that all these smart people could show what the human race could really do if given the opportunity.

Frankly, if I was an alien and came across this planet, I would nuke it.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#684 - 2011-11-04 02:45:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Xiozor wrote:
Some people are just sore winners. You complain that they have the protection of a computer screen, but if you can't ignore kids being kids then thankfully so do you in the form of the "block" button.


Ok so blocking "people collecting tears" is actually mechanics of the game. But i still think that all "carebears" should unite should fit their ruptures and tempests and sabres and go obliterate whole nullsec Big smile Just for fun. it would be great roam of 30 thousand people.

Smack talk is fun, its there to provoke future victims. Smack talk after your victim is broke got no sense, there is nothing to gain, except "collecting tears" / which i conciser as an flaw in one personality


Well i actually agree. with your statement

Yet those you described thinks of them-self very highly and should be put down to kennels where they belong.
Xiozor
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#685 - 2011-11-04 02:56:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Xiozor
CCP made a game built around war. The idea is to kill one another which is why the killing options are much more varied and have received much more devtime than the exploration options, and the industry options stop working within a month without the killing ones to fuel them.

The way the game is designed is to give you guns, push you all together within limited resources and what with the nature of human competitive spirit (This is healthy and one of the biggest reasons we are the dominant species on our planet) conflict in game is inevitable.

Asking a gaming to community to become some sort of intellectual paragon of humanity is stupid in ways I don't even need to describe.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#686 - 2011-11-04 02:58:30 UTC
Xiozor wrote:
CCP made a game built around war. The idea is to kill one another which is why the killing options are much more varied and have received much more devtime than the exploration options, and the industry options stop working within a month without the killing ones to fuel them.

The way the game is designed is to give you guns, push you all together within limited resources and what with human competitive spirit is like (This is healthy and one of the biggest reasons we are the dominant species on our planet) conflict in game is inevitable.

Asking a gaming to community to become some sort of intellectual paragon of humanity is stupid in ways I don't even need to describe.


well true. And we all get it.

And we dont asking game community to change their behavior, We only ask them to see them-self for what they truly are.
Ultimately this game is build to domination/not war. Most epic things in history had not happened on field of battle, they happened because of betrayal.
The Ecca One
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
#687 - 2011-11-04 03:01:51 UTC
Bunch of whiny pussies in this thread, I'm just as evil in real life as I am in this game if not more so.
Qansh
Triskelion Ouroboros
#688 - 2011-11-04 03:44:54 UTC
Xiozor wrote:
Asking a gaming to community to become some sort of intellectual paragon of humanity is stupid in ways I don't even need to describe.

No, but creating subsets that are intellectual paragons of humanity (to whatever best degree) is possible and, given the great numbers that will oppose their advance, the fun will go on. And, of course, one must proselytize.

EVE is won when everybody simultaneously destroys their weapons of war and begins anew. That seems as fair and reasonable an "endgame" as anything else, even though getting there isn't restricted to the realm of pew-pew.

We are war but we are also corporations.
Serene Repose
#689 - 2011-11-04 04:11:38 UTC
The Ecca One wrote:
Bunch of whiny pussies in this thread, I'm just as evil in real life as I am in this game if not more so.
Yeah, right. Really evil people don't even own a computer.

-1 for nerdspeak fail.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#690 - 2011-11-04 04:37:48 UTC
i think eve is a great big experiment into human nature to see just how messed up society could become with no rules. I think thats what attracts most the users, i doubt most people who kill barges, and gate camp and all that whatever are really horrible people. I suspect most of them are just everyday folk who live in the ordinary everyday world and eve lets them put that aside for a few hours and experience life with no limits, see how far they can push themselves and others in the process.

while i havent yet done a suicide gank i must admit i have wondered myself what would it be like, to go smash some random person just for the hell of it
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#691 - 2011-11-04 04:50:33 UTC
The Ecca One wrote:
Bunch of whiny pussies in this thread, I'm just as evil in real life as I am in this game if not more so.


That's nice dear.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Michael Holmes Holmes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#692 - 2011-11-04 05:43:13 UTC
The Ecca One wrote:
Bunch of whiny pussies in this thread, I'm just as evil in real life as I am in this game if not more so.



Such a nice example of humanity, wonder we survived the cold war with his type around.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#693 - 2011-11-04 05:48:02 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
I was hoping that this would turn into a full immersion space exploration game. That WE could prove we had learned something from several thousand years of war, atrocities, genocide.

I was hoping that all these smart people could show what the human race could really do if given the opportunity.

lol roleplaying

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#694 - 2011-11-04 05:52:51 UTC
People need an escape from being so concerned about everyone elses problems. Sometimes you just need to shoot something, and I'd rather have it be in a game than in my house.

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-
Chelone
Outside The Asylum
#695 - 2011-11-04 06:09:08 UTC
Aramatheia wrote:
while i havent yet done a suicide gank i must admit i have wondered myself what would it be like, to go smash some random person just for the hell of it


I've ganked indys while solo roaming in 0.0, just to try it. It was "interesting" but I didn't really get any satisfaction out of it at all. Guess I'm too "moral" for that particular activity to interest me, and that's fine with me.

I see little point in destroying the assets of random people. The only PvP I want to be involved in is PvP with a purpose, like holding or defending space for a corp, doing sorties in enemy space etc.
Jita Alt666
#696 - 2011-11-04 07:24:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jita Alt666
ACY GTMI wrote:


Frankly, if I was an alien and came across this planet, I would nuke it.


Selective morality combined with delusional sense of superiority. If the human race is not worth saving shut up and let the plebs kill each others mining ships.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#697 - 2011-11-04 07:36:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Halcyon Ingenium
ACY GTMI wrote:
Frankly, if I was an alien and came across this planet, I would nuke it.


So, its ok to commit genocide if you're an irl alien, but not ok to gank a miner on an internet spaceship game?

Congratulations, your post is now the dumbest thing I have ever read. Also hypocritical, but mostly dumb.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#698 - 2011-11-04 07:47:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ladie Harlot
I killed a Hulk (who was displaying a shocking lack of morals by trying to mine blue ice in an interdicted system) yesterday and the pilot was really mad. He sent me an evemail and told me he wished I got AIDS irl.
It was p funny.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
bilingi
Grandeur Illusions
#699 - 2011-11-04 08:24:05 UTC
Yea well no worse than the goons comeing to beat me up in 2007 for scamming some of them hahaha. Sadly none of them flew over to Iraq to do it I wonder why?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#700 - 2011-11-04 08:32:52 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
Xiozor wrote:

CCP designed the game to be exactly like this, since 2003 people like you have voiced the same complaints over and over again and have been told in very plain language by the devs that it is a PvP game, deal with it. Stop trying to make EVE into something it isn't, go play Sims 3.


I've never played any other video game, and have no desire to. No Multi-Player games. No RP games.

I was hoping that this would turn into a full immersion space exploration game. That WE could prove we had learned something from several thousand years of war, atrocities, genocide.


As a rule what humanity generally seems to learn from these things is how to get better at them.

On the plus side, the additional realism should help with your immersion!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016