EVE General Discussion

I actually like my neighbors. I don't like you.

The fact is, you're a real person and your real actions affect other real persons.

All this "I'm not like this in real life, I'm just a douchebag in a game, so it doesn't count cuz it's just a game on the Interwebs" doesn't fly. If you are a douchebag in the game, then you are a douchebag, period.

This is very true. Those other real people either need to HTFU or play another game. The mechanics of EVE do not prevent me from destroying your property. Whether I do so in real life or not makes no difference. I choose when and where to destroy things, and other people can choose to do the same to me in game or IRL.

It's just that IRL the consequences are very real. In EVE, you are really only losing space-cash.

Try to keep some perspective.


Also true. I actively troll while operating a motorized vehicle.

lol, sadly my stage electrician instincts would instantly kick in and my buddy would get clubbed across the room with a 2x4 or whatever bulky wooden object was readily at hand.... to save his dumb life of course.

Please don't attempt to engage in personal attacks based on assumptions. I do not need to do anything. The use and value of time is an economic concept, a philosophical concept and as you point out a physics concept. The example you gave in your original post was an economic example:
The value of a real life item vs an imaginary item based on the input of time, is a specific real-life argument that is repeatedly discussed when it comes to the rights obligations and values of intellectual property rights.

Accusing me of gate camping or suicide ganking miners is so off the mark it is amusing. The only things I have logged into the spaceship MMO: Eve online for over the last 18 days, is to check market orders and to cycle my PI Factories on a low input alt.

An electrician should know that's not what electrocution looks like :p

I won't disagree with you because NPC are boring and griefers are like drones but just a few percentage points smarter.

But(tmonkey!)..

If I go into some yarrage to fund a lowsec lifestyle or something of that matter, I can say "hey, this is how I play" and not "oohhhh! Your tears fuel me!!! Moar!!!".

I can say "Got you there - see you new to this" instead of "lolnubs gobacktoWOW. Headshot! ***!!"

I once beat all of my friends in poker. They anted up, with money they could afford to lose. I was a better player.

What would I have done if I insulted them after beating them? What kind of person would I be?

Someone with no friends - at the least not getting invited back to the poker game next time.

But I know my friends, and enough smacktalk would have gotten my ass kicked. Yes, even over a poker game because a certain level of prickishness can transcend what the setting or activity was.

Again, if someone wants to be an internet weenie, they should at least say "Hey, I'm an internet weenie and I do it because I can get away with it" - meaning that they can enrage people and not get slapped around for it. They need to admit that they do it because they can avoid the consequences. If I beat someone bad enough in poker or a race, and then if I see them upset for the loss, even if they are personally disappointed with themselves, and I go into "yessss! MOar tears!! Looooser!!!!" mode, I might get punched in the nose. My only competition involves shooting sports so we REFRAIN from that, and I have beaten people and been beaten so horribly that I have seen rifles tossed into backs of trucks in pieces and once nearly took up golf myself.

You see, we are polite in THAT "game" and some of the best shooters in the world have given me advice after spanking my sorry butt at the range and sending me back to the truck practically dragging my rifle by the sling.

You see, I don't want people to change, I want them to be honest and spare me the tired old dialogs of "that's how I play", "it's a sandbox", "it's all about blowing things up", etc. I want to admit that they are simply using a game as a medium to bother people and in such manner as they won't suffer consequences for Douchebaggery.


My theory is that these are people who lack the power to do things to others in RL and get away with it. The sorry state of the world is such that there are people getting away with a lot these days, and as a result, all those angry people out there, their lives wrecked, have no other recourse than to go into a game and grief someone.

Again, they can do that, just don't lie about it as if fooling me is part of their little power trip.

I too, am gay.

As I said in my previous post, and which you selectively ignored:

You're playing a game WITH OTHER PEOPLE. They might do things to you which negatively impact your gameplay in order to win. That's part of competitive games, beating the other guy. And in Eve, there is no set win condition, meaning that winning for me might be blowing up your stuff.

If you want to grind for years and build stuff without risk of it being messed up, Eve isn't the game for you. If you accept that risk, you need to grow up and stop calling people names just because we choose to play a game in a different way than you do. Honestly, you're being childish.

Get better friends then.