EVE General Discussion

I get your point man, and most people here agree with you. But what are you arguing here and how does that relate to the original question? Like i said earier



yea, they could be jerks. I bet there are a lot of ppl who play this game who are very immoral. But it has nothing to do with the gameplay. Even their gameplay mimics their personality you can't go as far as the OP (and many others) have tried to take this. How you act in game has really no bearing on how you act IRL.

This is different than what you get out of the game (sadistic pleasure in your example). This is different than why you play the game (all the arguements about acting out our true selves, etc). Yea, it might in fact show up in their game play, but you can't work the other direction. It is illogical to derive someone's behavior from how they act in game, which was the original assertion.

Morality.

A concept invented by humans to allow one to justify ones own decision as superior to others.

Unless the person in question is some kind of an masochist.

He does wrong, he perceive it as such and he internally suffers by his action. Yet he chose to do it. Why ?

Could be masochist..

Could be fear from being unable to make choice, and going against one personality to prove he can. Then he can actually feel good about the result, caused by his success to make such choice.

Human beings are emotionally plurist. We engage in a cross section of emotional states at different times of our lives, different times of the year, different times of the lunar cycles, different times of the day.

To say sadist in game = sadist out of game is a poor attempt at rationale deconstruction of the actual events occurring.

Sadistic tendancies come and go. Feelings of unqualified vindictiveness and the derision of pleasure from that state are not fixed entities. Like feeling sad, or content, feeling sadistic depends on many variables.

The hypothesis that individuals with higher levels of sadistic behaviour within the game perimeters have higher levels of sadistic tendencies in the real world may hold water. We do not know this it has never been satisfactorily tested.

To pose a different but aligned hypothesis, Eve Online game play allows a higher level of implementation of sadistic tendencies than real life. This allowance of sadistic behaviour leads to greater implementation from individuals who are increasingly liable to expression of said tendencies.

Just like football turns people into robbers.

Taking the bait. Eve Online is a game. The time you spend on the game is not an investment for virtual goods. It is entertainment. If some one destroys the virtual goods you have built up, they are not destroying the product of your time. They are not damaging you in real life.

Your second sentence is says a lot. Eve has been intentionally designed that way. It is a mechanic of the game.

Yep. The same thing out of place in all of the examples being used to pretend morals don't matter. It's a ridiculous and laughable comparison that shouldn't mislead anyone over the mental age of 8.

Waiting for the griefers to proceed to reference Hitler so the thread can be over with already.

I agree that Eve is designed to bring out the worst in folks. I find it fascinating that it works so well. And you will never find me saying that has to change.

But tell me this, OK, so if you blow up my POS that's OK becuse its "not real" even though I may have hundreds of hours spent it doesn't matter. But vandalizing my car is bad because it exists in "RL" and is somehow worth more? Even if they take the same amount of my pool of time away? What if I had a hobby of building elaborate replicas of Eve space ships with popcicle sticks? Would it be OK to smash those? I don't "need" them and they aren't worth anything in RL.

You need to take a few philosophy classes and then spend a few years pondering life and what we percieve as reality (some physics classes related to quantum realities would be good too) then come back and tell me in a reality were all we have is finite time why they are any different.

Of course doing that might take away from time gate camping or sucide ganking miners.

Issler

That makes destroying it all the sweeter.

You're playing a game where anything you fly can be destroyed and you are complaining and judging people specifically because they are destroying those things. You really need to be playing another game.

I buy a PLEX every so often and also pay a subscription. I don't have a lot of time to grind and I don't make a lot of money. OTOH, I don't take it hard if I lose a ship, or multiple ships. If I ran out of ships on both accounts, I would buy another PLEX or tough it out in a n00b ship until I could afford a frigate. This is all part of the game.

As for why I left my morality at the door? I'll make it simple: Because I can. And I'm a ******* saint compared to most of the people who play according to your terms of morality.

So just think how awesome it will feel when you smash the windows out of your neighbors house! Be sneaky about it an they will never catch you and it will be just like Eve! Woot!

Issler