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The "legal" way is anyway concord allows. Anything else is an illegal protection scheme that concord intercedes in if attempts are made to enforce the unlawful tyranny. Paying for rights to which such criminals do not posess the power to grant only encourages an increase of dishonest assertion of might in areas said criminal does not rightfully control. The pirate can honestly promise you no true protection...they will not sit in the belts with you around the clock to honor their commitment to you by defending "their" stake in your business venture. They are trolls ...with very large warts on their bums.

This 'EVE-Mining' site you are currently promoting isn't very good at all. You would be better off mentioning other existing sites that are better such as http://eve.grismar.net/ore/full.php or Halada's mining guide which is out of date but miles better than this piffle.

I haven't checked the high end info on this EVE Mining site but others have said it is out of date. The two fits for Mackinaws and Hulks may seem great to uneducated but there will be very poor resistances & EHP on them. Good for gankers - not for miners.

The figures listed on the low end chart for best minerals from which ores are mostly incorrect:

Scordite is the best ore to mine for Pyerite - NOT Plagioclase.
Plagioclase is the best ore to mine for Mexallon - NOT Kernite. (The main use for Kernite is to complete certain level four storyline missions. It is really too heavy/uneconomic to mine for minerals.)
Omber is the best ore to mine for Isogen - NOT Hedbergite.

They got the entries for Veldspar (Tritanium) and Hemorphite (Nocxium) correct.

I'm not sure the timer widget is of that much use either. You can do the maths in your head roughly for how many cycles to leave the lasers running. It's best not to mine the whole of the rock/s anyway and leave a small amount left as this helps them rejuvenate quicker.

One day business thinking starts to sink in and they see that most of the low cost income comes from miners, multiboxer miners, docked industrialists and such.

There will always be lazy ppp out there that rather use a calculator instead of the head :p

I think so many divergences in data will confuse new miners further instead of helping, so whats the point?

Agreed. I posted a comment on the site regarding (some of) the mistakes you mention, they haven't gotten around to accepting it for posting yet. While it looks nice, it is in fact misleading. CCP Gargant, get your act together and run just a little bit of quality checking on the sites you choose to feature.


I didn't know that - is that actually true? I had the impression that it was the other way around: If you leave anything, the site/belt/whatever will take longer to respawn. Could you elaborate a little on this, please?

I don't have any proof but I am led to believe it is the case that if rocks in asteroid belts are not completely mined out they will recover at DT to a higher unit amount per rock than if they were completely mined out. It actually wouldn't take much to confirm this on a belt making notes before DT and after. On one day mining them out then another day leaving some of the rocks. I just haven't done it myself.

I haven't mined in a long time, but was curious when I saw Dev hyping a mining fansite.

My experience has taught me to be wary of the information on fansites, regardless of the game. Too many times, fansites are someone's great idea, created then abandoned and never updated, but on the internet, they never go away. People search google and find long abandoned fansites and quote from them with authority in their dialogue and errors become debates.

I prefer to seek my information from sources where people are paid to keep the information up to date. Some games manage to keep the interest of the gaming community longer than they keep the interest of the publisher or author of the game who have moved on to the next project to sell. Eve is a little different being so long running. Granted, their resources are not infinite and they often set lopsided priorities where some parts of the player base are served with more devotion than others.

From evolution we learn that only the strong survive. From gamers with disposable income we learn that only the games which remain of interest to gamers survive. Games which devote their interest to a slim portion of the player base drawn to a minor portion of the games full breadth and depth will lose players whose interests lie elsewhere. Do I need to type Incarna in all caps?

One of the prime directives of Eve once was that it would go where the players took it and player interest would drive development. Eve has lost its way many times as inside forces have struggled to assert their favorite portion of the game, however slim the player base interest might have been, as the "way the game should be played".

I say the way the game should be played is how the player base self selects itself into the various areas of the game. The danger of that is the publisher of the game creating an environment where a minority of the players can negatively impact on the pleasurable gaming experiences of the majority of the players as that will lead to the majority of the players leaving and the minority losing interest as there will no longer be suitable targets.

Yes, this is a sandbox, but it is not a schoolyard. Schoolyard bullies can always count on having victims. Sandbox gamers cannot. To develop an environment which allows the game to evolve into a self-devouring organism will be the death of any game.

Self-devouring games are not attractive to new players unless the new players are willing to get beat up long enough to learn how to beat up newer players. I submit that course of action will just speed the demise of the game as most new players will not be attracted to or comfortable in such an environment and eventually the game will consist of only the self-devouring players of the game who are posting on the forums, "But.... But.... this is the way the game is SUPPOSED to be played" to each other while the majority of the gamers who sampled, spit it out and moved on to subscribe or purchase elsewhere.

I know I will be flamed as a whiner who has no idea what the game is about because I don't a long list of kills posted somewhere. I only spent two years in null sec before the API verified killboards were available and fake kills were easy to create and post and be argued about ad infinitum, ad nauseum. And I don't care what you think of me anyway, so have at it and enjoy!

Isnt that for mercoxit only?

I don't think mining needs to be made more interesting or engaging. It is what it is - a different way of playing the game. I do think botting and users of ISBoxer need to be tackled. Maybe by introducing belt rats that do more damage so if they aren't taken out swiftly you will be in trouble. Nothing anywhere is boring - it's just that different people like to do different things. For example I don't like football but that is all they talk about where I work.

The winterpatch will give us a minigame for mining like the one imtroduced for exploration...