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the reason behind AFK gameplay

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#41 - 2013-09-16 21:20:54 UTC
Georgina Parmala wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you probably have no clue about bombing undocking haulers, but sure feel like an expert because you did read about it

you guys on the forums are all the same, you know about the game from reading, not from playing

I know about bombing an undocking anything, not just a hauler.

I know not to expose myself and waste my ammo on something that's impossible to hit if the target has an IQ over 50.


I shotdown 2 crane with my bombs, you would never have tried, thats why you guys just succeed at stuff others can do as well

I shotdown hauler warping in and out with my bombs... don't try to understand it, you do not have the mindset for it

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Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-09-16 21:25:04 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

I can feel what you know from what you say, and you don't know much, trust me that

I'm wondering less and less why no one wants to play WITH you and you only play multiplayer games to play AGAINST others.

While signing up for Everyone vs Everyone may have sounded like a good idea, you have to note there are no rules for the rest of us teaming up against you when it serves our purpose.

Ironically, as I mentioned, FW is exactly the "game mode" suited to your personality and what you want out of the game. I'm afraid if bringing down the ebil gewn empire is your goal, you're going to need the assistance of a few thousand like-minded, determined individuals. You're not going to find them behaving like a know-it-all brat.

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=276984&p=38
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#43 - 2013-09-16 21:27:03 UTC
Georgina Parmala wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

I can feel what you know from what you say, and you don't know much, trust me that

I'm wondering less and less why no one wants to play WITH you and you only play multiplayer games to play AGAINST others.

While signing up for Everyone vs Everyone may have sounded like a good idea, you have to note there are no rules for the rest of us teaming up against you when it serves our purpose.

Ironically, as I mentioned, FW is exactly the "game mode" suited to your personality and what you want out of the game. I'm afraid if bringing down the ebil gewn empire is your goal, you're going to need the assistance of a few thousand like-minded, determined individuals. You're not going to find them behaving like a know-it-all brat.


you all have a hard time if somebody does not do what you want, because you all have to behave in your groups, so funny

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Ivan Krividus
Cold Lazarus Inc
The-Expanse
#44 - 2013-09-16 21:30:15 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
so I decided to watch some movies and let eve run in the background, basically becoming one of those afk cloakers

why did it happen? jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide

the problem is local, because of local you have two players not beeing able to play the game, the one who mines or does some ratting hides and docksup and and if you stay even logsoff, on the other hand the cloaker needs to wait and therefore goes afk to maybe have the other player go on and maybe catch him if he thinks hes afk

by removing local you get two things, 2 players actually keep playing the game instead of leaving it, the miner will only mine with support or think about other ways to prevent the cloaked player, and the cloaked player can just go on and try to ambush

you want people actually play the game and get ingame solutions, then remove local, you want the people to leave the game, then you keep local

your decision CCP

Minimize chat window maybe?
If not, there's W-space. Use it.
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-09-16 21:32:11 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

I shotdown 2 crane with my bombs, you would never have tried, thats why you guys just succeed at stuff others can do as well

I shotdown hauler warping in and out with my bombs... don't try to understand it, you do not have the mindset for it

Congratulations, you shot down a docking hauler who landed 2k off the undock because he is too stupid to make and use a docking bookmark.

Congratulations, you shot down an undocking hauler too stupid to make an instant undock bookmark and use it, or stop his warp and dock in the 10 seconds it takes for your bomb to land.

If you really want to pretend to be elite pvp, you can start combat scanning and bookmarking undock bookmarks of frequent travelers, then gank people as they land at those instead of on the station itself (where it's kind of impossible to get caught if you have half a brain). You really need to understand you are just picking off the stupid and the lazy. Which ironically enough, should be plentiful in your target area.

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=276984&p=38
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-09-16 21:37:25 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

you all have a hard time if somebody does not do what you want, because you all have to behave in your groups, so funny

I don't much care when people do stuff i don't like. It's when they try to go off on their own and do their own thing - then try to change the whole world to suit them. That bothers me a little.

PS: having friends is awesome. It means you have people around to help you accomplish your own goals and people to do stuff with when you don't want to have to organize every little detail yourself. Kind of like log in > join existing fleet > go pew pew for an hour and call it a day. I seem to recall you wanting something like that.

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=276984&p=38
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-09-16 21:38:43 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
lucky the game mechanics do everything to protect you guys... you sure love safety... you only get killed 20 times a year


What are you smoking? I get killed every time I kill a ship.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#48 - 2013-09-16 21:42:04 UTC
Georgina Parmala wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you all have a hard time if somebody does not do what you want, because you all have to behave in your groups, so funny

I don't much care when people do stuff i don't like. It's when they try to go off on their own and do their own thing - then try to change the whole world to suit them. That bothers me a little.

PS: having friends is awesome. It means you have people around to help you accomplish your own goals and people to do stuff with when you don't want to have to organize every little detail yourself. Kind of like log in > join existing fleet > go pew pew for an hour and call it a day. I seem to recall you wanting something like that.


I get anoyed fast by people, the bigger the groups get, the more I dislike them... you sure find out when you get older and smarter

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2013-09-16 21:45:13 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
lucky the game mechanics do everything to protect you guys... you sure love safety... you only get killed 20 times a year


What are you smoking? I get killed every time I kill a ship.


every gamer knows the best have a k/d of around 50/50

if your k/d is around 1000/20 then you are just a coward hiding behind the lines whoring on killmails

even highsec miners take more risk then most of you guys

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-09-16 21:50:18 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
lucky the game mechanics do everything to protect you guys... you sure love safety... you only get killed 20 times a year


What are you smoking? I get killed every time I kill a ship.


every gamer knows the best have a k/d of around 50/50

if your k/d is around 1000/20 then you are just a coward hiding behind the lines whoring on killmails

even highsec miners take more risk then most of you guys


I don't know, Kovorix keeps a pretty good 2/1 3/1 KDR going and he mostly does solo fighting, so that kinda blows that shitbird theory out of the water.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2013-09-16 21:59:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
lucky the game mechanics do everything to protect you guys... you sure love safety... you only get killed 20 times a year


What are you smoking? I get killed every time I kill a ship.


every gamer knows the best have a k/d of around 50/50

if your k/d is around 1000/20 then you are just a coward hiding behind the lines whoring on killmails

even highsec miners take more risk then most of you guys


I don't know, Kovorix keeps a pretty good 2/1 3/1 KDR going and he mostly does solo fighting, so that kinda blows that shitbird theory out of the water.


2/1, 3/1 sure takes more riks than those 1000/20.... however 50/50 tends to be the best pilot if you can keep it that way for the long run.... a 50/50 pilot takes more risk, therefore endsup with better experience

Kovorix killboard however looks good, he has a good mix of losses in there, he sure takes risk but maybe does some safe shots as well to keep motivated

your killboard however 2000/100 is pure batting gameplay... 2013 you have completely given up on any risk, 20 loss vs. 1000 kills?... honestly, more risk is take by a newb flying level 1 missions

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#52 - 2013-09-16 22:02:57 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
so I decided to watch some movies and let eve run in the background, basically becoming one of those afk cloakers

why did it happen? jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide

the problem is local, because of local you have two players not beeing able to play the game, the one who mines or does some ratting hides and docksup and and if you stay even logsoff, on the other hand the cloaker needs to wait and therefore goes afk to maybe have the other player go on and maybe catch him if he thinks hes afk

by removing local you get two things, 2 players actually keep playing the game instead of leaving it, the miner will only mine with support or think about other ways to prevent the cloaked player, and the cloaked player can just go on and try to ambush

you want people actually play the game and get ingame solutions, then remove local, you want the people to leave the game, then you keep local

your decision CCP

Thats called W-space. We already got W-space. If you like no local, move to W-space. Please stop trying to turn null into W.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2013-09-16 22:04:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Vincent Athena wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
so I decided to watch some movies and let eve run in the background, basically becoming one of those afk cloakers

why did it happen? jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide

the problem is local, because of local you have two players not beeing able to play the game, the one who mines or does some ratting hides and docksup and and if you stay even logsoff, on the other hand the cloaker needs to wait and therefore goes afk to maybe have the other player go on and maybe catch him if he thinks hes afk

by removing local you get two things, 2 players actually keep playing the game instead of leaving it, the miner will only mine with support or think about other ways to prevent the cloaked player, and the cloaked player can just go on and try to ambush

you want people actually play the game and get ingame solutions, then remove local, you want the people to leave the game, then you keep local

your decision CCP

Thats called W-space. We already got W-space. If you like no local, move to W-space. Please stop trying to turn null into W.


I'm not iterested in W-space, this is needed in nullsec because the SoV is there, its the biggest problem in that part of the game

stop telling me what to say, you got your opinion I got mine

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#54 - 2013-09-16 22:18:03 UTC
Oh look, an other AFK cloaking thread...
With all due respect, there are plenty threads already regarding that subject. Please continue the discussion in one of those.

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