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Good weapons to train for a minmatar pilot?

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Neesha Marinn
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-09-17 10:34:49 UTC
Daler Farmon wrote:
@Sin Pew,
Almost the same fit like mine, except MWD and it takes ages to do lvl3 AE. Shields go down very fast, I do like 10 times warp out to station to recharge shields... U should be have some tactics otherwise can't be.
P.S U can make some video in youtube)

Purely a lack of well trained secondary skills in that case.
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-09-17 13:20:51 UTC
Daler Farmon wrote:
@Sin Pew,
Almost the same fit like mine, except MWD and it takes ages to do lvl3 AE. Shields go down very fast, I do like 10 times warp out to station to recharge shields... U should be have some tactics otherwise can't be.
P.S U can make some video in youtube)


There's no secret tactic or vet conspiracy, I'm not even a vet.

The Drake isn't a fast ship, at any rate, it's a brick. It doesn't have a speed to take advantage of transversal and as a shield tanker, it has the sig radius of an elephant on a bowling lane.
The fit I linked probably isn't the best, as I said it's over-tanked and omni-tanked, using mission specific hardeners would probably get slightly better results.

The MWD can be replaced with a TP to help shooting the frigs if you don't have drones.
In that case, starting from a brand new character with no implants and no remap, it takes a whooping 21 days to fit that ship with the following skills:
Target Painting I
Mechanics III
Missile Launcher Operation III
Caldari Frigate III
Jury Rigging III
Shield Rigging I
Caldari Destroyer III
Light Missiles III
Heavy Missiles I
Missile Bombardment III
Shield Management III
Missile Projection III
CPU Management IV
Caldari Cruiser III
Caldari Battlecruiser I
Target Management IV
Shield Operation IV
Hull Upgrades IV
Shield Upgrades IV
Energy Grid Upgrades IV
Weapon Upgrades IV
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV (longest training time with 3d12h)

For a whooping 2.16m SP, the result is a 62.5k ehp passive-tanked boat, with a peak shield recharge at 157, it can hit up to 47km, dealing 133dps with 1132 per volley with scourge for less than 100mil ISK tops.
After only 21 days, this boat has a very good chance of whistanding most L3 missions. Other ships might get much better DPS and complete missions faster, but requiring more micro-management for reps and cap.
Again, it's not a super-tinkered fit and it can only do better with improved skills, but it's a solid start and should be fairly easy to use in PVE.
To continue the skillplan, there's a serious lack in Missile support skills and the shield compensation skills can bring a little bonus, but it's a T1 hull with T2 tank and no level 5 skill, well within the reach of young players.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#23 - 2013-09-17 15:37:08 UTC
Daler Farmon wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Daler Farmon wrote:
You can't even do lvl4 solo with missile ship(until it fly enemies recharge their armor/shield), unless its not some T2 or T3 ships with t2 equip fitted on it.

At around the 2-3 month mark I was doing level 4 missions in a Drake battlecruiser, with T1 meta-3 launchers and the rest T2. I only ever had problems with one level 4 mission; "Vengeance" (Sansha = EM weak but resist kinetic); which I bought a few faction EM missiles to kill the last boss (he has a huge amount of rep).

Since then the Drake, skills, and medium missiles have changed to make it easier.

I really don't know what you are expecting.

Its my second month in the game. Your comment is something unbelievable for me. How long does it take u to do lvl3 Angel Extravanganza (not lvl4) ?? in the Drake... and please share your fit also.

I never timed it.

I've posted my fitting many times in the past. It is no longer relevant with recent changes to the Drake.

I just Google-ed: site:eveonline.com cabalander drake "level 4"

Example: Good Caldari ship for level 4's?
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