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An intervention, for the best of New Eden!

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Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#61 - 2013-09-19 23:29:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Heh, lady sounds like you're the one with some issues, deep issues.

Switch to decaff next time.


Clearly you haven't been around IGS a lot. Most of us around her have issues. And then those who don't, have instead political agendas. On the rarest of occasions, you'll find some people here have both.

This is the difference between The Summit channel and the IGS, we tend to be the power player act, while they tend to be your average hippy hey-let's-**** crowd that you mentioned you like to hang with. Maybe you should dwell there. Otherwise, simply accept that this is a norm around here.

We're all in deep in issues.

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Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#62 - 2013-09-20 00:25:24 UTC
Oh, I know its the norm around here, but I like it here anyway, so...gonna stay.

IGS can be pure entertainment, better than the soaps on holo at times, because its got it all, including self-important yammering like you're doing right now.

Love it that just because a guy likes to be laid back, drink coffee, and fish when he's not flying all over the cluster that he's a hippie, lol. Well, if that's what I am in your eyes, that's cool. I have my own demons, but I leave them at my quarters, and not chestbeat or show everyone my issues in a bid for sympathy or to awe someone.

As for the other? Well, we're already dead men and women walking, our originals died many clones ago, and since everything is transitory except us, I've found that its usually other capsuleers who know each other best, and biological things happen. At least when you do find a relationship with one you know they are not likely to become dust as eternity drags on.

I have fishing to get back to.

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Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#63 - 2013-09-20 00:38:45 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Oh, I know its the norm around here, but I like it here anyway, so...gonna stay.

IGS can be pure entertainment, better than the soaps on holo at times, because its got it all, including self-important yammering like you're doing right now.

Love it that just because a guy likes to be laid back, drink coffee, and fish when he's not flying all over the cluster that he's a hippie, lol. Well, if that's what I am in your eyes, that's cool. I have my own demons, but I leave them at my quarters, and not chestbeat or show everyone my issues in a bid for sympathy or to awe someone.

As for the other? Well, we're already dead men and women walking, our originals died many clones ago, and since everything is transitory except us, I've found that its usually other capsuleers who know each other best, and biological things happen. At least when you do find a relationship with one you know they are not likely to become dust as eternity drags on.

I have fishing to get back to.


You should do what I do. Preach here, entertain yourself in person. Truly, the mediums suit each of those better, respectively.

I would hardly be able to minister on here if I derailed to flirt with every gorgeous woman who stops by to leave a comment.

.... much as it is tempting, I will admit.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#64 - 2013-09-20 01:15:23 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:

Love it that just because a guy likes to be laid back, drink coffee, and fish when he's not flying all over the cluster that he's a hippie, lol. Well, if that's what I am in your eyes, that's cool. I have my own demons, but I leave them at my quarters, and not chestbeat or show everyone my issues in a bid for sympathy or to awe someone.

...

I have fishing to get back to.


Waste of implants, waste of corporate funding, waste of braincells (even the artificial ones), waste of oxygen...

And to think, whoever it is that made you a capsuleer has to be rolling in their graves right now, seeing how much you've done in your time.

But don't worry, you've got some endless number of clones to make it up to them now, more wasted isk to spend while millions of societies climb over eachother to make a single kredit.

Such a shame.

You're the kind of person that inspires me to piracy. Specifically, hunting other immortals. Something about watching hundreds of their crews die and knowing they all trusted their big immortal captain to keep them alive... it just, gosh, it makes you feel alive. And then when you can get them to start crying, wailing and willing to do anything to save their precious Navy Battleship... it's like there's not a single thought in the immortal's mind about their crew and that their entire existence is summarized by a single ship.

I get off to that part.

You remind me a lot of them. Silly little tough talkers without a care in the world, wasting away what the empires granted for them, and never actually waking up to their own potential.

I like farming those types. Your kind always comes back. You bring another crew each time. It's like, Wave 2 of the next spawn.

And the day you don't come back, I know you're the kind who will just go off themselves for good, which is a real shame because I actually love sharing New Eden with you.

/end_of_psychotic_rant

/wipes hair out of face and composes self.

As these people come around I'll have to let them know they're better off 'fishing' from now on. I can even namedrop you if you'd like? -Might give you some actual purpose from here on out in your wasted immortal life. :3

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2013-09-20 01:22:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
Arkady Vachon wrote:

Love it that just because a guy likes to be laid back, drink coffee, and fish when he's not flying all over the cluster that he's a hippie, lol. Well, if that's what I am in your eyes, that's cool. I have my own demons, but I leave them at my quarters, and not chestbeat or show everyone my issues in a bid for sympathy or to awe someone.


No one here is asking for your sympathy or making a show of their troubled past and inner conflicts. Respect here is mutual, If you treat someone properly, they probably will treat you properly. Making an ass of yourself isn't very respectful.

In regards to your nonchalant life style, I don't mind it, if that's what makes you happy feel free to pursue that. Personally, I prefer to keep myself busy. I'm practically immortal so I'll have plenty of time to laze around later. Why become a capsuleer if you're not going to take advantage of your Demi-God status?

That question was only half sarcastic and rhetorical. I like seeing how other people think, whether I agree with them or not. You have the ability to do something great and time will always be on your side. The life's work of a legendary scientist or scholar can be matched and even exceed multiple times. Any offspring you might have will age and eventually look older than their father assuming they don't become capsuleers themselves.

You can become so much, and yet you do so little. You have a gift that millions in the cluster would kill for (and have) and yet you refuse to use it. You just laze around like a drunken fool doing nothing with your life. Hell, you haven't even made it out of your school yet! Why do you lack this motivation?

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#66 - 2013-09-20 01:29:13 UTC
The question of this ENTIRE topic has been if those involved or around Miss Kim has been treating her properly.

That is all I set out to argue.

But since then, we've dabbled with 'what could possibly be wrong with the federation'?

And then there's the 'hey, i really don't care about your view, Diana, but here's my disgusting (since I'm Gallente and can't take a hint) offer anyways.'

And then, 'gosh, you all uptight, ya'll got to relax because I'm relaxed.'

And now I'm treating people bad.

See. Some things just aren't worth saying. And you're not alone there.


/emote scowls at own portrait.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-09-20 01:38:46 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:

And now I'm treating people bad.


I wouldn't say so. You're merely treating people the way they treated you. If they were deserving of being treated better, then they would of treated you better, or at least apologized for their earlier actions.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#68 - 2013-09-20 02:55:26 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You can become so much, and yet you do so little. You have a gift that millions in the cluster would kill for (and have) and yet you refuse to use it. You just laze around like a drunken fool doing nothing with your life. Hell, you haven't even made it out of your school yet! Why do you lack this motivation?


Indeed, the Empyrean ought to conduct himself as the Prophet Anoyia demanded of the Chosen:

"Chosen, you are first before God.
You are the True and the Faithful.
But in such a state must you hold yourselves high above all.
And constantly prove yourself worthy of Gods Love.
How can such a gift be repaid,
Other than to toil all our days,
In his glorious service,
According to his will,
Serving him always,
Bearing him first in our thoughts,
Always must we strive to show him our worth,
For we are the Chosen, Blessed above all."
- The Scriptures, Anoyia's Exhortation to the Faithful

Whenever you feel listless, ask yourself: is there one Minmatar somewhere out there not wearing the collar and taking the Vitoc? Yes? Then God's work is not done. Get back in your ship and fight, fight, fight.
Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#69 - 2013-09-20 07:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Nauplius wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You can become so much, and yet you do so little. You have a gift that millions in the cluster would kill for (and have) and yet you refuse to use it. You just laze around like a drunken fool doing nothing with your life. Hell, you haven't even made it out of your school yet! Why do you lack this motivation?


Indeed, the Empyrean ought to conduct himself as the Prophet Anoyia demanded of the Chosen:

"Chosen, you are first before God.
You are the True and the Faithful.
But in such a state must you hold yourselves high above all.
And constantly prove yourself worthy of Gods Love.
How can such a gift be repaid,
Other than to toil all our days,
In his glorious service,
According to his will,
Serving him always,
Bearing him first in our thoughts,
Always must we strive to show him our worth,
For we are the Chosen, Blessed above all."
- The Scriptures, Anoyia's Exhortation to the Faithful

Whenever you feel listless, ask yourself: is there one Minmatar somewhere out there not wearing the collar and taking the Vitoc? Yes? Then God's work is not done. Get back in your ship and fight, fight, fight.


And that... makes the skin crawl.

Do capsuleers count? Should I be worried? Suppose Minmatar aren't enough and you cannot breed us into your perfect under-class? Suppose the Brutors aren't enough for hard labor, do you start crossbreeding other Tribes to get more Brutors? And if it's still not enough, would you dare start to target the other Empires much like how you once targeted the Jove?

I really don't want to wear that metal injector collar again...

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Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#70 - 2013-09-20 07:56:21 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Whenever you feel listless, ask yourself: is there one Minmatar somewhere out there not wearing the collar and taking the Vitoc? Yes? Then God's work is not done. Get back in your ship and fight, fight, fight.


1. There's a lot of those in the Empire, you moron.

Isis Dea wrote:
Waste of implants, waste of corporate funding, waste of braincells (even the artificial ones), waste of oxygen...

And to think, whoever it is that made you a capsuleer has to be rolling in their graves right now, seeing how much you've done in your time.


2. What have you done that's so grand and worthy? I've watched you since you first started posting here. Not seen much trace of anything except a cynical, destructive loner. Destruction in its own right is nothing to be proud of. Vachon's style of life might not be my aspiration, but I'm amused that you dismiss him entirely based on what he does when he isn't flying.

Of course, if his flying career is equally uninspiring, then by all means, carry on.
Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#71 - 2013-09-20 14:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

2. What have you done that's so grand and worthy? I've watched you since you first started posting here. Not seen much trace of anything except a cynical, destructive loner. Destruction in its own right is nothing to be proud of. Vachon's style of life might not be my aspiration, but I'm amused that you dismiss him entirely based on what he does when he isn't flying.

Of course, if his flying career is equally uninspiring, then by all means, carry on.


You're spot on.

I think I continue to vent here because I've found elements within the destruction, the loss, the coldness of space that inspire (at least in my opinion) noble traits. Like the lost finding God within the darkness, inspired to share, I impose on others the darker side of life in a merciful fashion compared to what I've lived through.

At least then, through some interaction, I feel I can relate to at least one person in the moment.

Perhaps at the core of all this, I hurt, I'm lonely, and boatload of other things I should be drowning myself within the bottom of the barrel over or running away from within the arsenal of drugs available.

Is it sad I feel even more lonely when I put myself through those things? Like I'm doing a complete injustice to every person that isn't here present day I've ever know?

In the end, the destruction made me who I am, a survivor. That's all I have. And on a rare day, maybe I'm able to relate to small selection of people that might feel equally lost.

That's my inspiration, my cause. Shoulder that within imposed obligations of being an immortal and you can read me like a book.

That's also why if he comes back with statement about his flying career, I'll be eating my words hard. I'll say ahead of time that my outburst wasn't fair to him, that I was battling something or someone else in my words, not him.

Arkady Vachon deserved better words from me; there's nothing wrong with his ways.

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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#72 - 2013-09-20 17:36:39 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:

You're spot on.

I think I continue to vent here because I've found elements within the destruction, the loss, the coldness of space that inspire (at least in my opinion) noble traits. Like the lost finding God within the darkness, inspired to share, I impose on others the darker side of life in a merciful fashion compared to what I've lived through.

At least then, through some interaction, I feel I can relate to at least one person in the moment.

Perhaps at the core of all this, I hurt, I'm lonely, and boatload of other things I should be drowning myself within the bottom of the barrel over or running away from within the arsenal of drugs available.

Is it sad I feel even more lonely when I put myself through those things? Like I'm doing a complete injustice to every person that isn't here present day I've ever know?

In the end, the destruction made me who I am, a survivor. That's all I have. And on a rare day, maybe I'm able to relate to small selection of people that might feel equally lost.

That's my inspiration, my cause. Shoulder that within imposed obligations of being an immortal and you can read me like a book.

That's also why if he comes back with statement about his flying career, I'll be eating my words hard. I'll say ahead of time that my outburst wasn't fair to him, that I was battling something or someone else in my words, not him.

Arkady Vachon deserved better words from me; there's nothing wrong with his ways.


Harden the **** Up, then I would say.

Just as we're all victims for we did not create history or the Capsuleer War Economy, we continue to be perpetrators for perpetuating both. I do not find this to be a revelation.

You are no better than those you disparage as, "Hippies", for you engage in the very same acts of validation seeking behaviour I find so disgusting and contemptible. The lives lead in the denials and hypocrisy of ideological, moral, and religious delusions that in myriad ways lead down different paths to self-perdition.

However once it is realized and accepted that all things are alike, whether it be victory or defeat; profit or ruin; joy or despair; life or death; then you are able to finally let go of the flotsam of lies accrued over a lifetime with neither fear nor hesitation. To drown oneself in the waters of a new life that grants the clarity of perspectives not seen with an old life.

In the end though, I have little mercy or compassion left for myself and mine, so I certainly have none for you and yours.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#73 - 2013-09-20 17:41:07 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:

You're spot on.

I think I continue to vent here because I've found elements within the destruction, the loss, the coldness of space that inspire (at least in my opinion) noble traits. Like the lost finding God within the darkness, inspired to share, I impose on others the darker side of life in a merciful fashion compared to what I've lived through.

At least then, through some interaction, I feel I can relate to at least one person in the moment.

Perhaps at the core of all this, I hurt, I'm lonely, and boatload of other things I should be drowning myself within the bottom of the barrel over or running away from within the arsenal of drugs available.

Is it sad I feel even more lonely when I put myself through those things? Like I'm doing a complete injustice to every person that isn't here present day I've ever know?

In the end, the destruction made me who I am, a survivor. That's all I have. And on a rare day, maybe I'm able to relate to small selection of people that might feel equally lost.

That's my inspiration, my cause. Shoulder that within imposed obligations of being an immortal and you can read me like a book.

That's also why if he comes back with statement about his flying career, I'll be eating my words hard. I'll say ahead of time that my outburst wasn't fair to him, that I was battling something or someone else in my words, not him.

Arkady Vachon deserved better words from me; there's nothing wrong with his ways.


Harden the **** Up, then I would say.

Just as we're all victims for we did not create history or the Capsuleer War Economy, we continue to be perpetrators for perpetuating both. I do not find this to be a revelation.

You are no better than those you disparage as, "Hippies", for you engage in the very same acts of validation seeking behaviour I find so disgusting and contemptible. The lives lead in the denials and hypocrisy of ideological, moral, and religious delusions that in myriad ways lead down different paths to self-perdition.

However once it is realized and accepted that all things are alike, whether it be victory or defeat; profit or ruin; joy or despair; life or death; then you are able to finally let go of the flotsam of lies accrued over a lifetime with neither fear nor hesitation. To drown oneself in the waters of a new life that grants the clarity of perspectives not seen with an old life.

In the end though, I have little mercy or compassion left for myself and mine, so I certainly have none for you and yours.


You remind me of the willing True Slaves. The difference and sole reason I consider myself separate from those "hippies" is while there are those who run from the darker side of life, I embrace it.

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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#74 - 2013-09-20 17:48:33 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:

You remind me of the willing True Slaves.


Then you make the mistake in not recognizing that nowhere did I ever promote the solutions Kuvakei proposed to existential crisis.

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Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#75 - 2013-09-20 18:03:22 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

However once it is realized and accepted that all things are alike, whether it be victory or defeat; profit or ruin; joy or despair; life or death; then you are able to finally let go of the flotsam of lies accrued over a lifetime with neither fear nor hesitation. To drown oneself in the waters of a new life that grants the clarity of perspectives not seen with an old life.


This touches on quite a few paths leading down the road to becoming a True Slave.


Nothing is alike.

I do not have my fears anymore, nor hesitation. Yet I did not have to purge myself of all such things that inspire yet joy and value in life. The only complaint I have is I do not have much for companions because of how much this has empowered me.

Too many it seems, white knights and unexposed hearts come along and try to fix me, only for me to try my best not to scream at them that I'm not broken. That I won't take back my warped desires because they make me who I am today.

As a once pleasure girl and also slave who has always shared a bed with someone, I hope you understand that though I've come a long way, company is still something nice to have.

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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#76 - 2013-09-20 18:19:30 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

However once it is realized and accepted that all things are alike, whether it be victory or defeat; profit or ruin; joy or despair; life or death; then you are able to finally let go of the flotsam of lies accrued over a lifetime with neither fear nor hesitation. To drown oneself in the waters of a new life that grants the clarity of perspectives not seen with an old life.


This touches on quite a few paths leading down the road to becoming a True Slave.


Just because an apple and orange are both classified as fruits, it does not make them the same.

I would say that what summarizes Sansha's Nation to me is that Kuvakei sought to use technology to change the fundamental nature of humanity for savagery, barbarity, and cruelty due to gross stupidity and inherent biological flaws.

It might be said I recognize much the same. The difference here, and it is a critical one, is that I feel no need nor desire to change fundamental human nature in any way.

This, if only to preserve my amusement and vicarious pleasure derived from witnessing humanity in all its dysfunction and iniquity.


Kurilaivonen|Concern

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#77 - 2013-09-20 19:06:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Just remember there are two sides to that coin. To the True Slave, it is a synthesis of all things within a utopia of Kuvakei's vision. Life there, is beautiful and null, understood as a giant collective. There is no fear, no hesitation, no unneeded emotion, for those experiences drain on the perfect collective, everything else and all that you've learned is a lie, enlightened through one man's vision.

And within it, a new life.

There are quite a few similarities, Miss Gesakaarin, even if it is ultimately channeled elsewhere in your wrath for humanity.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2013-09-21 01:19:05 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:

I do not have my fears anymore, nor hesitation. Yet I did not have to purge myself of all such things that inspire yet joy and value in life. The only complaint I have is I do not have much for companions because of how much this has empowered me.


"Foolish are they who fear nothing yet claim to know everything. Brave are they who know everything yet fear nothing."

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-09-21 01:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Isis Dea wrote:
Just remember there are two sides to that coin. To the True Slave, it is a synthesis of all things within a utopia of Kuvakei's vision. Life there, is beautiful and null, understood as a giant collective. There is no fear, no hesitation, no unneeded emotion, for those experiences drain on the perfect collective, everything else and all that you've learned is a lie, enlightened through one man's vision.

And within it, a new life.

There are quite a few similarities, Miss Gesakaarin, even if it is ultimately channeled elsewhere in your wrath for humanity.


I might re-iterate my earlier point another way then.

In a scenario in which a fat man who enjoys eating too much candy ends up killing himself when the vending machine he was attempting to tilt over in order to get at the sweets inside falls on top of him when it gave an error code and did not dispense the required cakes for the currency of choice:

1. Sansha's Nation might put forward that such people are too stupid to fend for themselves and require preventative measures. This might be through technology to prevent the need to be obese and stupid; the ability to read signs on vending machines that warn might happen if it is tilted over too far; or just enjoy the pleasures of physical exercise.

2. I do not have the same sort of misguided sympathy and humanitarianism that I would say drives Sansha's Nation to alleviate or prevent acts of human stupidity. Rather, I would have a chuckle at such a scenario and perhaps even remark at the hypothetical dying man, "Well, I suppose if you weren't such a fatty who needed to eat cakes at any and all opportunity you wouldn't have been crushed to death by a vending machine." I would then thank him for his contribution to the human race in having selected voluntary vending machine assisted euthanasia in order to remove themselves from the gene pool.

Acceptance of that which we cannot change will lead to a natural economy of expenditure of effort. That to me will always be the failure and flaw of Nation. A failure to accept that human stupidity should not be changed. A misguided form of sympathy, compassion or parochialism that cannot abide by the fact that some people are born as lambs, too meek and weak to fend for themselves. It is only natural to me that such people serve to be torn apart by the hounds that are stronger and better adapted.

What need have I for leaders, prophets or messiahs? I am enlightened through my own wisdom and I have faith in myself. Why would I debase myself by kneeling at the feet of another? My release from fear, hesitation, and emotion occurred long ago. The footsteps in the dust I have left walking through the penumbra of my own inner struggle towards the locus of my absolution are of no importance to anyone else but to myself.

That I feel is a difference between you and I. I see you continuously implying fault or weakness in others for failing to, "Embrace the darkness", whilst at the same time always seeking to draw attention to yourself. Your loneliness. Your hurt feelings. Your narcotization. To the point I see nothing more than affectation filled diatribe and the need to find solace in the sympathy of others, despite any allegations of understanding the darkness of the universe to the contrary. If the capsuleer life is truly found to be onerous then I would suggest -- not only to yourself but any others -- to run a warm bath, step in with a razor blade, open your veins and politely end yourself.

At least then I might be spared having to read more mind numbing exposes about other capsuleer's emotional or mental problems.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#80 - 2013-09-21 03:31:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
'Embrace the Darkness' indeed... As if swimming downstream is any sort of a challenge.

The challenge is to be found in comprehending this existence for everything it is and forging a good and decent life out of the materials. How easy it is to be the monster when they hand you the mask and the knife and stand, salivating, for you to satisfy all their expectations.

It strikes me that your life, Ojaabun, might be massively improved by thinking a little less and living a little more. Perhaps the opposite will help our Matari friend.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.