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Problem
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Its very difficult for small corps and alliances to establish a foot hold in Null Security. Null space is vast but very underused. Null sec should be used for fighting for and keeping space not renting space you don't need to others.


Possible Solution
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Sov assets do not send a message to the alliance they are under attack or damaged. They show up on screen with hp listed - Territorial Control Unit [100%] or POS Shield [30%] (in red if damaged). EDIT: Originally proposed changing timers to 48 hours but decided to leave them as they are. Edited Out: [They still reinforce but for 48 hours instead of 24]. They need to be repped back up.


How does this solve the problem?
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If assets did not send a message removing the need for players to actually notice that they are under attack then a small alliance could come into a region that has been TCU'd but not occupied by the alliance and kill them. If they wanted to remain anonymous, as in not showing up on the map as occupying the system then they could simply not deploy their own TCU.

If a person has a PoS then they should be logging in every day or every other day to check on it. Relying on the server to police other players actions leads to invulnerability to the larger alliances and requires no work to be done. One can simply wait for an automated email from the server.

With this change a small corp or alliance could go into the very underused parts of null sec, all of which are claimed and destroy that old moon holding POS that no one uses, set up their own, build their strength, make allies with other like minded corps alliances and perhaps become powerful enough to challenge the existing monolithic and stagnant null sec alliances that aren't using that space at all.

Don't forget that you have to establish SBUs before you can attack a TCU.
Most systems are IHUBed, so you cannot immediately attack the TCU, but have to work your way through timers.
Also it is already not uncommon for alliances to SBU their own systems. These SBUs have to be shot down, which generates a killmail and a notification to the owner of the SBU before you have even anchored your own SBUs in their place.

I'm not convinced your idea solves anything yet.

You already can put up a POS and live in someone else's system if the owner isn't home.

So, basically, what you have done is made alliance level logistics slightly more of a headache, while slowing down actual warfare by 100%.

That means:

• More time to rep, instead of doing alarm clocking to rep shields. Therefore making it MUCH easier to outright avoid losses.


• Twice as long for a reasonable attacker to take system.


• As well as functionally turning the entire game into Dreadnaughts Online, since you'd basically double the amounts of fights necessary to take the damn things. Which would mean that power projection would become that much more valuable to alliances.

As if sov grind actually needs to be more of a pain in the ass than it already is. And all because you're upset you couldn't sneak in a pos bash on the Goonies.

Your failure to understand what I said is not a problem I have to deal with, fortunately. It's all there, and self apparent at that.

You received my input as it was, and responded with one sentence. What did you expect?



And once everyone adapts in oh, say, a week before it goes live (since I'm pretty sure we all can read patch notes), and realizes that all they have to do is log in a few times a day to check it (little more difficulty involved than what exists now)?

Then, you have doubled the time it takes to take sov, in exchange for slightly more work on the part of the alliance/coalition logistics groups. At which point the game becomes far more of a grindy, horrific shoot-at-buildings nightmare than it already is.

Opening the window just gives the defender more opportunities to rep the station that the attacker would have to respond to within that timeframe. So now, instead of having to keep a standing fleet to stop determined repairs for 24 hours, you have to do it for 48 instead.

You would literally have turned the meta into "deny your opponent as much sleep as possible until they quit".

At which point the crux of your entire idea becomes "I hate sov holdings notifications", and you aren't really proposing anything except to nerf something that you personally don't like.

malcanis' law

Stop trolling my thread please. If you have nothing to say go troll elsewhere.

People rarely do this anymore, except perhaps when they're actively under attack and want to deny the attackers the ability to establish a staging tower, and in that case, believe me, they're going to know if a POS is attacked. Outside of that situation, if there's a POS there it's being used somehow, even if it's just as a safespot. This isn't pre-Dominion sovereignty anymore, it's really not worth the money.


SBUs are nominally an offensive structure, used to render the IHUB and station vulnerable so you can attack them. So, in most cases, "removing SBUs without generating a mail" is unnecessary. If an alliance is using them in the way that El 1974 describes, they're doing it because they're under attack and in that situation, believe me, their attacker knows they're there.


Except it really won't, because the process for system conquest is not "show up, shoot TCU, claim system." It's rather more involved, and if you want to make any suggestions about how sovereignty should work and hope to be taken seriously, I suggest you familiarize yourself with how it actually works. This article is a pretty good primer.


And with that out of the way...



Why? Says who? If I have, through conquest, taken space from a foe, who says I should not be able to rent access to that space out to interested parties? Likewise, if there are parties interested in making use of nullsec space but who are unable or unwilling to take it by force, but willing to pay for it, why should they not be able to do so?

They still could. The only change would be the server not babysitting the system. The players who hold it would have to ensure it wasnt being attacked rather than relying on the server to tell them.

Imo player actions and player made content (such as sneak attacks in deserted systems) should have priority over automation as much as possible.