EVE General Discussion

All good questions - I can answer some of them. Expect multiple bubbles, yes. Expect anything, actually - including de-cloaking drones, bombs, hidden cloaked adversaries, webifier drones, and interdictors going after you if you evade the gate . . . you name it.

Even a monster gate camp might not have what it takes to get the fly every time, however. On the other hand, there's no simple self-defense answer either.

except bubbles set up as well 200km behind/before the gate aligned to the stargate you are coming from "systems with just 1 gates" but also where there are multiple gates, hence you can have multiple bubbles on gate, could have 200 all around the gate overlapping
and cover maybe 100km before you can warp "extreme"

your 1min cloak will last and invul timer

if you are closer then 2500 anything will decloak you!

decloak align and wait to be able to warp might not be the best idea, maybe if you manually pilot in opposite direction get out of the warp bubble effect sooner, make a uturn and warp!

except inderdictor cloaked and decloak right when you want to warp out!

if you decloak inside the buble, they can know if you warped in or jumped...well by the jump animation and local, this is easier done in not busy systems!

another hint, in 0.0 alliances have JB so maybe if someone hunts you down for a few system, use JB to bypass some systems and appear in front of you!

hope this helps

Thanks all for your answers. since I cant really go practice, I need to do a lot more reading and research before I head out.
Seems like you need a new degree for each of Eve's professions.
Probably have to check out the actual mechanics first. For example can you just lob a bomb out without having a target? If so, then with my limited knowlege I could think up a bubble camp that would seem unpassable for me.
If the bubble was placed right at the gate, and you dropped a can in the center (if that is possible) Then send out as many fast drones as your camp members have, to orbit the can at different distances. Then when I jump into system, they lob the bomb to the can. If the bomb did not pop me, then surely the orbiting drones would uncloak me before I even knew what was happening.
If I get into a system I'm fairly confident of not being caught, it's just the bubbles which I am trying to find some strategy, to try to reduce the huge advantage the bubblers seem to have.
And Cierra, yes I often scan wormholes in highsec, and go in for a scout around. But always come back out. Not enough knowlege or planning to go further.

I'm with you - a big believer in internalizing well-researched best practice before taking too many high-risk chances. You can practice your gate technique, however - I know, because I've done it.

Kug make a tank ship kug a very tanky ship :) this will get you the info you need if the got you bubble. Really this is fun. And no, not joking.

Well first If I can learn to move about null fairly competently, without getting caught in a bubble every few gates, then I would do some data and relic sites. Mostly for the tinge of danger compared to high sec. To gain practice and experience. watching dscan constantly while hacking, always mindful of dangers. I was surprised how well I did it roaming all over low sec, passing experienced gatecampers without ever getting locked. cloaking up when I spotted probes. Sitting cloaked watching the hunters searching for me.
After months of high sec missioning with zero risk, it was an absolute rush.
Now I think for me null is the next mountain to climb. An exploration.
If I could become fairly competent in null, I would probably then look to join a laidback null sec corp. Ratting for isk. Possibly train for interdictor, or cyno ship, to help out with corp ops.
Just trying one more time to find my place in Eve

I'm a little cynical of EvE true however I pretty much only fly cloak ships and been spending a lot of time in null sec.

The other day I did a roam from Catch which is south of the map all the way north to the top of the map, drone regions, and then all the way east through Tenal, Venal, down to Goon space Fountain area and then got a wormhole to Delve and went over to PB, across to Stain... I didn't get killed and I was in a battleship for half the trip and a cloaky T3 the rest.

Ironically when I came back to empire I undocked in Amarr, which is a 1.0 system on my alt in a Cov Ops and got killed by two destroyers :)

The truth about null sec is the only time you'll really die to a gate camp is going in through the choke points. If you're in a cloaky you'll almost never die. I haven't been killed yet to a gate camp in one and I'm going through them a lot.

When you jump, if you're in a bubble you align, hit your mwd, cloak, change direction immediately and then slow boat out of bubble.

Alternatively, if you're in a less mobile ship, you head towards the gate rather than away from it. Most interceptors will burn to you and then in the direction away from the gate, by the time they do uncloak you you'll be able to jump back through gate or if they don't, slow boat out.

As for travelling through null, its very very empty. People are afraid so they'll mostly congregate in hub systems. When you jump in they'll all be on their way to station to dock because they're afraid. You can usually just burn through without being harassed or taking offsets to gates.

Occasionally you will get people who have some balls but its rare in my experience.

There really is not much to fear in null sec.

Tip: At the moment Period Basis is completely deserted. You'll be lucky to see anyone and if you do they'll likely be explorers.

Oh these last 2 posts are a bit of a surprise to me. Really I was expecting there to be bubble camps every few gates. It does seem to be an easy way for those who like to inflate their killboard without much risk to themselves. Also no concord, no standings lost.
Perhaps null is so sparsley populated, that the risk of meeting a bubble is less than I had thought.
So learning to use the map correctly, and avoiding these chokepoints seems to be my next goal.

I have my helios set up for speed and agility, and skills almost maxed for those also. And after my experiences in low, I'm confident that if I get into a system, catching me would be very hard indeed.
But if it turns out to be too safe, it would become boring again, and I would lose interest.
I don't think I am suited to pvp, lost 2 vexors when I was a rookie, learned from that, and nothing lost since.
More adept at out foxing and out maneuvering gankers, griefers, and gatecampers now.
So I hope null turns out to be interesting and exciting, I'll head out there in the next few days, and see how it goes.

I think someone mentioned that along wwith the bubbles there may be debris such as cans or drones scattered around to decloak you. Be sure and have "biomass" on your overview. A lot of pilots don't so gate campers will sometimes either place a few corpses around, or just leave the ones that died in the bubble. You have to say 2000m from debris to hold you cloak.

Go to EC-P8R - high sec to Nul, there is always Bubbles on this gate - so go practice