EVE General Discussion

Alliances that lose their sov go to npc null because it allows them access to the same type of space and similar style of combat to what they had. Many alliances that do lose their space are on the way out anyway and heading to npc is a last ditch effort to stay alive.

Curse is used because it is right next to low sec so easy for logistics (unlike venal or stain surrounded by sov), has some of the best pve (pirate l4s), is not **** space (see great wild lands), and is in a fairly active area. It's not where alliances go to die, it is where they go to try to live.

Some geolocations simply attract attention. Jita 4-4, for instance, attracts its own kind of attention, and lots of it.

Curse, on the other hand, is more like the Afghanistan of New Eden. It's where empires go to die.

Pretty much this... in addition to that, they expect npc null to be just like their home, but the truesec over there is much worse, as well a complete lack of upgrades etc. So income wise, it's much lower, meanwhile, the local entities are much more aggressive and fluent in small gang warfare which is generally not how big sov alliances fight, so they get overwhelmed, make bad calls on fights, and generally get the bad end of the stick over there.

After already being kicked out of sov space, their morale is low, add to that the crushing effect of the lower income, no 'decent' moongoo, continual harassment by small gangs where they have no proper counter, especially since these are often 'kitchen sink' esque fleets, not using massive fleet doctrines but very different and more relaxed ones, making their FCs get dizzy with the idea of trying to figure out what the enemy is capable off, thus landing them more and more defeats adding further moral crushing, these alliances just tend to fall apart.

The few that do survive tend to become very small hard cores again, turning into similar entities like the locals, the few of those that flourish and become larger might then one day again be reborn as a sov holding alliance, but that doesn't happen very often.

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The real problem is that if you're going to hold sov, you're going to have to defend it. A lot of the people in sov alliances are either carebears, or carebears pretending to be PVPers. Things go along just fine when the only alliance opposing you has the same membership. However, once an alliance that actually wants to fight comes along, then you're in trouble.

Curse in general is a hard region to defend if you don't know what you're doing. There are no major choke points so getting in is pretty easy. While most easily accessible regions have the benefit of being easy to supply, Curse does not as it's still far from low and hi sec. So basically, you're completely surrounded by enemies and cut off. Not a good place to be.

Curse is cursed.

I don't think anybody honestly believes TEST is ever going to "come back." It just takes a long time for a huge alliance anchored by a huge corp to die. It's a matter of when, not if. And the curse of Curse will continue.

Show me where they touched your pos.

Especially when they never purge their inactive players because they are afraid of how bad it will look on dotlan graphs.

TEST isn't dying guys... come on now.

Havent you heard that theyre doing this to grow stronger and then theyre gonna slowly take over ALL the things?

We cant beat the big guy, so were going to stay in the forest and kill boars until we gain like 70 levels. Expect a TEST resurgeance in 25 years.

Goons are just skillless F1 carebears that want to afk farm kills via drone assist.

The elite pvp N3 dominix doctrines, nulli ishtar doctrines and so on will waste them with their superior skills