Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would also add that it seems to me that CCP don't want eve to be bigger than anything out there whether that's WOW or LOL etc. If they did you might see one of their excellent promo trailers turned into a TV advert. They've got the budget, they've got the artwork and the fancy graphics etc, but they don't do this.

I think CCP are happy with eve as is, and are looking at other streams of income hence the development of other games, there's nothing wrong with this and I support it as long as the core game (i.e the one that's paying all of the bills) isn't short changed in the meantime.

Pay to play has proven itself to be more sustainable than free play games which come and go, failure is usually due to lack of systainable income.

I porpoise a genetic engineering project to ensure that-- within a generation-- spreadsheet-loving sociopaths, egomaniacs, and bitter IT workers outnumber normal people by a significant margin. Mission accomplished.

Read this a couple times and i cannot understand what you are trying to say, sorry.



Yes.

Like many have already stated, Eve does not strive or desire to be as big or bigger than WOW. Its a niche game and niche games cater to a crowd looking for something different. Take FPS games for instance. Call of Duty and Battlefield constantly duke it out attempting to be the bigger better FPS. They are both different games in many ways, and both similar in many ways, and both have loyal followers. Than you have ARMA 2, and now ARMA 3. ARMA does not have nearly the player base that either COD of BF have, but for those of us who love the game it is a far better military game than either of the other 2 are. 64 player battles on maps that are in all actuality just as much a theme park as WOW is versus a military simulation style game that acts more like a sandbox. A military game where the playable map covers 250 square km of completely playable terrain and then some. I have been in some custom ARMA servers for player vs player operations with as many as 300 people. While not as significant as a large scale Eve fleet battle, it is quite significant for a FPS when you add in infantry, airborne drops, attack choppers, transport choppers, tanks, bradley's, A10's, actual artillery (called in and fired by players giving actual grid coordinates) etc.

I don't want Eve to be anything like WOW, and I actually still play WOW occasionally with my kids because they enjoy it and like to play it with dad. WOW is WOW and Eve is Eve, and as an adult gamer I much prefer the unforgiving nature of Eve. On a side note, my oldest is now 17 and started an Eve online account 3 months ago and "LOVES" Eve. He has watched me play Eve over the years and decided he wanted in on it, and there is absolutely no looking back. Like me he still plays WOW with his brothers, but I routinely find him on his lap top on a school night at like 2 in the morning playing Eve instead of sleeping. He has caught the Eve bug, has joined my corp etc, and has even made a couple of kills in low sec PvP all on his own with no back up.

If a modern era gamer like my 17 year old can find his way to a real game like Eve, adapt to it, learn to love it, and thrive in it, than why should we as a community or CCP as a company strive to reach WOW like proportions. There will always be those who want a WOW like theme-park ride and they can have it, but there will always be those of us looking for something different; even in our younger generation.

Next question is would we need several Eve Servers if we would reach WoW Numbers?

The brutality and complexity of EVE seems to attract a certain breed of gamers - one quite different from your usual WoWer. You don't stay here and log in because if you do, the game will give you candy for just doing that.

(Also certain breed of human, you have about 80% chance to encounter someone in the following field: ex/current army /IT/science)

You log in because someone else has said candy and you want to take it from him.

The fact that it's not like WoW, or, perhaps, any other game, makes it so special. So many games nowadays reward you for simply playing them and integrate a "carrot on a stick" mechanic into a game just to keep people playing. In the case of EVE you aren't entitled to success for just pushing the "log in" button.

In a sandbox you find your own carrot, nested a top of a mountain and guarded by terrifying challenges. You will be given tools to claim said carrot, but no strict 'questline' for it - how you accomplish your task is completely up to you.

Now, in a multiplayer sandbox like EVE this comes with a twist: you can find someone gullible enough to toss him into a trap while you walk by and about halfway through you'll find out that there's a group of other players that call themselves the Killer Rabbits and will guard the carrot with their lives. Oh, and there's just one carrot for twenty people like you.

(Of course, that just means that a lot of dead rabbits and nineteen knives in the backs later this carrot will taste ******* delicious)

1. Walking in stations
2. Walking inside ships
3. Walking on planet's surface
4. Walking on moon's surface
5. Walking on asteroids surface
6. Spacewalk
7. PI with ability to build own cities and holding actual districts on the map.
8. Ships crew
9. No more side projects just focus on eve online pc game.
10. Ability to build own private pos anywhere you like in space as long as its not in LS/HS
11. Profit....

This game will never be as big as WOW was because when Vanilla WOW came out, there was nothing else like it on the market, so they were a monopoly. The only reason why people would always go around claiming that WOW is dying, is because now they actually have some decent competition, so of course some people will be drawn to other games when faced with another choice of games to play.

If ccp doesn't want more players, why was dust created? I can only see it as an assault on call of duty's market and other games of that genre.

Hmm... getting more players in the game is a bad thing cause we may pick up more whinners and experience more lag? Worst excuses ever, so what if those come? Blow em up and perform some "cognitive re-calibration"

I could never see more players in game as a bad thing... Sure they may change the game being that they are new players with new ideas but we have no more reason to deny their attempts then what we attempt to do ourselves.

This almost seems like xenophobism but instead of a country it's other gaming cultures.