EVE New Citizens Q&A

Eve is not all about missions. The tutorials do everything with missions, and set you on a mission path (with some small variety on the type of missions). A lot of newbies get stuck following this direction and end up having an awful time, getting bored, and quitting. There needs to be some sort of introduction into the emergent gameplay possible by working with/against actual players.

I don't know how to accomplish that, but as is the tutorial introduces newbies to a Eve's crippled cousin, not Eve itself.

How hugely important joining a corp is and [/b]how to find a corp that does not suck[/b]. Eve is not a single player experience, and that is not reflected at all in the intro/tutorial. There also needs to be a better way for newbies to research corps, with some way to find good, active corps as opposed to stale corps.

I know these are vague and are asking a bit much. However, this stuff is the main thing wrong with the NPE in my opinion.

When I first started I don't think there was the "Required For" tab when inspecting skills so I ended up training "Advanced Spaceship Command" since reading the description told me it would increase my agility.

It might be good (at the least) to expand the Aura tutorial to direct new players to the "Required for Tab" by directing them to train the racial weapon skill and to view what the different levels of the skill allow you to use.

It would be better to direct new players to a skill which (like Adv. Spaceship Command) where the benefit of the skill only applies to specific ships or T2 weapons. I can't think of a good example offhand which would be accessible to a brand new player (ie not requiring lvl 5 of a prereq skill).

Yes, I refer to this issue as Adventurer Fitting. For instance, in other games where you have to Equip items, there's no penalty for having a steel helmet, a priest tunic, wooden sandals, 2 bronze gauntlets, and a fricking necklace with some rare jewel in it. Essentially, many players are used to the method of just plugging the holes then improving the module in the slot. Now granted, there isn't an easy way to teach new players to not fit their ships like this, but it's definitely worthwhile.

ME/PE research. I have that shuttle BPO with ME 100 or so around, somewhere.
Invention. I'd been looking forward to this, until I found that it was just another meta level.
Pay attention to ship bonuses. I'm still not sure why I went with laser Catalysts early on.
Skill training. Figured this one out fast enough, but it sounds as if it isn't emphasized that you always want something training.

Something I think would be quite useful for new players: "Skills that would enhance current ship/modules" filter in queue. Also, the option to show bonus description.

I wish someone would've told me about learning skills before I'd wasted close to two months playing. Yeah I know, I'm a bitter vet and one of my character is short about 1.5m SPs because of that mess up. Good riddance on those skills.

Oh boy! there's SO MUCH I wish I had known or understood. A lot of it is was things that I didn't really believe until it bit me in the ass.

• When you're a newb, don't fly through low sec. You WILL be killed eventually. There is no 'maybe' about this. (what is gate camp? you mean it isn't just a few jerks roaming around that will pvp you it's everyone??)
• 5 million isk is nothing. Don't be impressed with yourself. (learn about all the ways to make isk and really don't fly what you can't afford to lose.)
• Always have perches in null, always.

I wish I had known not to take advice from long term members of the starting corp[SWA].

Those are the people least qualified to teach you how to play this game right.

Not a new player, so some of this might already have been covered in the tutorial after i started, but its things i see other people struggling with.

1. How to report a player that scams/blows them up in rookie systems.
2. Some way to make sure new players knows that joining the first corp that posts an advert in local might not be a good idea.
3. Some way that explains to a new player what FW is so they dont accidentally join a FW corp without understanding what it is (was sort of a shock when a 1 day old Gallente player was wondering why he couldent travel anywhere without getting shot at, turned out he had been persuaded to join a Caldari FW corp without knowing what it was).
4. Some way to inform new players that war decs do happen and they cant expect to avoid this if they are in a player corp.
5. Information about things like trade hubs (maybe a mission that sends them to the closest trade hub in their area?) so that new players can learn where to go without having to jump across 20 different systems when buying new fittings for their ships just to get it cheap.
6. Seems to be some confusion about how to use the map (switching from system map as an example).
7. How to find the wallet.
8. How to find personally made bookmarks.
9. As others have mentioned, some way to make sure new players know that if they go to a system a couple of jumps away they will find ore. This is a question that comes up several times a day. Maybe just leave a note in the mission description or something, might be enough to make people understand?
10. Same with slots for industry (or just set up slots that can only be used by players that are under a certain age, or on certain missions to prevent older players from taking up all the slots).
11. As others have mentioned...How to add and remove things from the overview.
12. The hacking mission (think its one in Balancing the books series?) were you complete the "game" and cans spew out and you have to collect them. This one seems to be very difficult for many new players, and im not sure if its because of lack of explanation in the description or if its because the cans are hard to see.

Think thats it for now, great thread, very good idea

That a thing called "Core Certificates" exist. Now training them all.

It's not about a question, it's a whole lot of questions but mainly it's about what you don't know that you don't know.

When I started I was very suspicious... lots of people contacted me inviting to join corps, but I thought they wanted to cheat me or try to take advantage. So I have spent the first 3 months studying guides trying to learn stuff on my own. This was very wrong, however I didn't get any suggestion from CCP or the game itself to join a corp. I didn't know what a corp is. The social part of the game is a major component of the game for a new person, because you get lots of help from corp mates and you can join social activities, like mining.

So here come a suggestion: why not CCP starts one or more official academies with training programmes for new players? Ensure some personnel is always online to help people get up to speed. Offshore this to India or the Philippines and get a few people on the cheap to help. This should be done objectively and then after 100 days kick the people out of the academy and invite them to join corporations or to start their own.

Eve is extremely addictive at the beginning and having people available, ready to speak with you is a way to make the game even a greater experience.

Edit: I would go even further and suggest that people are trained outside of TQ. The other way is to have a proper series of training videos, maybe 10-20 hours that cover a to z. I have seen people mentioning that all videos are available on utube. I have a problem with that: too many videos, some are a waste of time, most are not properly structured. Also what does a new player know? what to study? A new player won't even have a clue that there are utube videos available. Someone shoud either make them or assemble the content in a way that makes sense.