EVE New Citizens Q&A

Yeah - thx. I play for a week now and learned more from this posts than from tutorial tbh. Strange thing that topic started a year ago and there is still no tutorial on dscan or safespots... seems like pretty important stuff to me...
I lost 5 ships last 3 days to lowsec ganks and had no clue why. Well now i know. Too bad u only wright what u wish u knew but not the answers - pls do.

I wish id known not to train Mining or Freighters along with other such useless garbage.

I wish I knew far far earlier than I did that dscan was camera dependent and not ship orientation. I was so confused how people could scan things down in a direction so quickly I thought they were specifically fit just to use the dscan window.

It's not.

Also but this has been addressed in the tutorials - that you can't find skill level 2 on the market; two days to figure that out, two days on the original trial character, darn it.

How to play Eve by understand what Eve is, always interact with people to make the game more enjoyable, be it forums, local, private channels, voip software. Ask questions, take an interest, follow advice and learn from it, even if it turns out to be out of date advice.

Ship spinning is only enjoyable if you're too tired or drunk to undock.

Stupid things I did

- after the tutorial, for some reason, the only missions I could find were Mordu's Legion missions in low sec. I found the environment, hmmmm, slightly challenging with a cormorant.

- not bookmarking wormhole exits (and actually not bookmarking anything for a while)

- attacking sleepers drones with a heron - hey, they were only drones, right?

- investigating blue bubbles because they looked nice

Things I learned a bit late and should have learned earlier

- that 100% of the interaction you did not initiate will end up badly for you.

- that you could refit in space with a mobile depot.

- that LP store could help profits nicely.

- that I could be scanned very very quickly, and that invisibility really did work.

- that you should not do risky things with 50% of your assets in implants

- that some signatures were too hard to scan for certain skill levels

- that a bit of googling would give detailed info on almost everything

Still learning every day...

I wished there was a sort of EFT tool integrated.
I fitted ships directly from the market and lost some isk while buying things I couldn't fit (cpu problem) etc
It was a while when I read about such 3rd party programs.

I see that alot of people didn't find the tutorial good.
Well, that's just what is amazing about this game. You get a basic training about mining and etc, and then you are left alone.
That's just the point so there is a steep learning curve and you must use your brain. And it makes indirect a very good community because there are hundred sites where they explain things and also help each other ingame and where people understand that you can **** things up.
When you raid in a regular mmo everybody expect you are a good healer or tank with exotic gear and if not, you get kicked out of the group because nobody wants to waste its time to give advise to you.

I wish I'd known about organised NPSI fleet groups like SpectreFleet, Redemption Road or RvB Ganked a lot sooner. As it is, I only learned of these things after I'd started doing some scribblings for TMC and the wonderful folk in the editorial chat hooked me up, which is hardly the regular route EVE newbies take.

I wish that instead of a GM contacting me asking "how can I help", I wish they'd contacted me saying something useful, like: "There's an open roam fleet forming in X-YZA system, if you're interested in checking it out, I can auto-teleport you there and hook you up with a one-time-only free frigate you can fly".

This would have introduced me to the joys of fleets much sooner. This would have given me the opportunity to make new friends much faster and get out of an NPC corp.

Just a thought.

If you're still having this problem, don't do missions against empire factions. You can gain faction with minnie without damaging your amarr standings. Do missions against angel, serpentis, blood raider, etc. you're status will go down with them, but its not going to effect your interactions in null so much.

The facts are that Eve is not difficult to play nor is the setting or the players harsh. It is a PVP arena first and foremost ... and the space sci fi strategy sim aspect of it is just for flavour. It's all PVP, everyone pvp's as soon as they enter the game .. each load of ore a miner safely brings in is an act of pvp that states ' I just out PVPed the whole pvp community by bringing this in '. If someone says anything moronic to you like 'you've got to be in this for the long haul', they are actually pvping you.
I wish someone had warned me not to ask veteran players questions and not to take any negative crap I heard on vids to be gospel. Everyone in this game has a gripe about something and if you listen to such crap too much you can develop a completely faulty view of the game before you've even started. The game is not harsh and neither are the players . If you ask someone a question and they say something like 'oh if you don't understand that maybe this game isn't for you'.
What this statement actually means is
1 "I can't be assed talking to you right now ...please fek off" or
2 "I don't know the answer to that and can't be assed thinking about it ...please fek off" or
3 they are unwittingly or deliberately PVPing you ... somewhere in the back of their head is them thinking 'this guy is asking questions- knowledge equals power in the game- power equals possible threat- terminate with extreme prejudice" .. basically they are trying to get you out of the game before you can be a threat, sometimes they actually convince themselves they are helping you.

Another simple thing that would've made a huge difference to me as a noob, would've been anyone saying 'dude if it's frying your melon take a break you're trying too hard'. I admittedly learnt how to play this game the wrong way. It's a common noob mistake to try and master the game literally overnight. You could say it's the fault of the game as its so damn good you just want to rush out there and conquer the universe.

And finally I hated the delays in skill learning in the tutorials, doesn't bother most folk but bugged the hell out of me.

I play this game for the strategy and complexity behind it. No one is given a step-by-step guide in real life nor should they have one here. You nailed it with the "Opportunities". The old tutorial was boring and I only did it for the quick starter cash. Please do not dumb down the game to much.

I'm almost 3 months into this game and has a brand new player, I think the following should be STRONGLY reinforced into any new players mind.

First of all. It has been mentioned over and over BUT, PVP...PVP...PVP... (Player versus Player)... PVP... Players versus Player... Players versus... well, you're on your own at first so... really player(s) versus you! It's unavoidable, it's everywhere, it's gonna frustrate you, it's gonna cost you that hard to get ISK you see disappearing like smoke and it's gonna bugle your mind! Why did he kill me? Why did he killed me so easily? Why could'nt I target him? Where did he came from? Why could'nt I hit him? What was that damn ship? He killed my ship...darn... oh wait... He can also destroy that little pod I'm in.... and He even killed my character! Wow!!!

Now, I'm still here and It's because mostly of an awesome community who answers my questions and don't hesitate to help me if I ask. My solution for this huge blank space in this universe is quite simple.

I wish there was an agent/tutorial/whatever that interface lady names that gives opportunities out, who would of send me to a PVP area! Just a place in the beginner's area where you can go and dish it out with fellow new players. Just a spot with his own channel that's in the newbie area where you can go nuts and try to take out other players just like you. Maybe make it so all faction (minmatar, caldari, amarr, gallente) could appear in that area with their rookie ships and make mayhem happens!

Imagine how fun it would be to just have a rookie ship, a bunch of civilian modules, like too many then what you need. Just to try fittings and equipments. Making you realise what works for the ship and for you. Loosing ship after ship, just going at it. learning how it is to be outnumbered or to start a toon with a friend and see how a fleet and teamwork can change the whole game dynamic. I can easily see an area like that, only available to less than so many skillpoint toons or less than 3 days old or whatever works kinda deal. Players would all be able to chat in that area and the opportunity thingy or whatever should mention that you CAN speak with someone that just killed you and tell him GF or that you want a rematch. Reinforcing the good vibe that this game has.

And like everyone else... D-SCAN... I was reading through this post and realised that the D-Scan work with your camera and not the ship directions... if it's true... gotta try it now to see if I'll be able to find someone on that damn thing. I feel like D-Scan is shouting my name in a warning when I get into Low-Sec for crying out loud and I can't seam to find a damn ship 1 AU from me!
D-Scan people.... D-Scan!