Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd like to see covert ops/recon to include:

1. Combat Frigate.

2. Battle Cruisers - Use T3 models and have them be the 'BS sized covert ops' since they are so squishy.

3. Black Ops BS - make viable for bridge and pew. - needs improvement.

4. Cruiser and Frigate logistic ships.

5. Destroyer - interdiction.

I am a firm believer that these ships should not have the same dps/HP of updated T1 versions. Their advantage is in stealth. Oh, lastly ... no drones please.

I'd say yes but then a big no to homogenizing EVE warfare. Not everything has to be the "logi dictor dps" thing. As cool as a dedicated logi (like the Etana) would be, same for dictor, they'd sort of break things.

Black Ops warfare is, on its own, unique - best representation of it would be the bomber which boasts staggering (for a frigate) firepower and is really squishy. Most of those ships should lean towards hit&run attacks, not lasting presence on the battlefield.

The SoE battleship is rumoured to have covert ops cloak capability. Does this change anything?

Unless CCP takes a serious look at their current iteration, there will be a lot of tears. I like the idea of Astero really, it fills a really empty niche in black ops and that's an all-around combat frig.

That said, I also feel like giving it 2 high slots + 2 turret slots is kind of comical considering that one of them will always be a cloaking device. Droneboat or not - most droneboats out there carry guns too (Tristan, Ishkur, Worm).

And yeah it's been confirmed that it can blops portal - IIRC, even the game parameter that regulates whether or not a ship can fit a covert cloak also regulates bridging. So if it can covert cloak, it can bridge.

As much as I'll love to use it as a pimped out version of my Battlebuzzard for site runners (sh, you've never seen me say it!) my eyes are on the Stratios - it looks like it could pack a hell of a punch, and I wouldn't cross a shield nanostratios out with 5/5/5 slots.

Anyway, back to the black ops thing:

What I wouldn't like to see is a complete streamlining of the fitting and pretty much a shove towards "one right fit". Let's take a look at Panther for instance - many consider it to be horribad, panther pilots insist it's the best blops ever and for good reasons.

- Can be Arty fit or Auto fit. Both setups do preform.
- Plentiful utility slots (3 - cloak, gives 2) make it an excellent platform for neuting and shooting. No other blops can fit a rack of guns and spice it up with 2 heavy neuts.
- Can be shield and armor tanked, each setup preserving the idea of its tank - Armor panthers have bigger buffer, unquestionably. Shieldpanthers are squishier but drop a mightier hammer.
- There's of course pig fitting, with reps/smarties and cargo expanders.

That said, the gank potential isn't exactly overwhelming and the speed bonus - as pointed out earlier - is wasted, especially in the era of MJDs (those are often lifesavers on black ops bs's). The bonuses are indeed hodgepodge and blops in general could use a look at their fitting specs because ohgod combat fitting some of them tends to scream "faction mods with reduced cpu or gtfo".

That and a scanres bonus, as mentioned a few times. Because hey, they're battleships already - with cloak they target outrageously slow.

If Marauders are any indication, expect the rebalance to go in the opposite direction.