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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2013-09-11 10:18:02 UTC
embrel wrote:


and if feasible on the Test server, I imagine someone will have tried doing that during the decade of Eves existence. What happened?


Nobody who plays EVE is interested in it.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2013-09-11 10:20:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Arenas won't work, because in Eve there is no instances or space that others cannot enter, thus anybody could warp in to interfere with the people in the arena. If arenas are ever implemented I can see a huge tear faucet being created, probably with smartbombs or roving destroyer fleets.

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embrel
BamBam Inc.
#23 - 2013-09-11 10:22:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
embrel wrote:


and if feasible on the Test server, I imagine someone will have tried doing that during the decade of Eves existence. What happened?


Nobody who plays EVE is interested in it.


well, I'm not, however, could you elaborate?

Is it like: Nobody is interested in it and that's why nobody tried to set it up in the first place or rather like: various trials in the past, but nobody was interested so it died a quick death?
Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
#24 - 2013-09-11 10:24:22 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
embrel wrote:


and if feasible on the Test server, I imagine someone will have tried doing that during the decade of Eves existence. What happened?


Nobody who plays EVE is interested in it.


Ah, but you miss the point, according to Harrys "logic", EvE gameplay should be designed to be interesting to the people that don't play EvE. Because. Stuff. Or something.
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
#25 - 2013-09-11 10:33:14 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
SiSi does not help at all, there are no leagues no arenas, you are not put together with others in teams, there is no gamemode for this, you can just go there with your frig and fight a titan, that does not make sense

a real league needs to be putup ingame so people are put together randomly to fight, no searching for fleet or people, you just be put together with others... and the gamemode puts you in the fleet with others, check out Starcraft or other games, thats how its done

it would be perfect to use those mechanics in EvE, at the moment a lot of that potential is just unused in this game

its the perfect game for leagues and arenas, would perfectly fit into the universe



ahhh please allow me to translate


"I want this to be just like WOW and I want the dev's to create content ... the suggested idea to go to sisi and create content of my own is rejected as to much work"
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#26 - 2013-09-11 10:37:24 UTC
Eve is an arena. In it's entirety. Intellect is your weapon, your ship merely the tip of the spear.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#27 - 2013-09-11 10:41:45 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Eve is an arena. In it's entirety. Intellect is your weapon, your ship merely the tip of the spear.

Meh, I'm so screwed P

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SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#28 - 2013-09-11 10:42:00 UTC
Oh look a known troll posting a hot button topic to stir up reactions. Haven't seen that before Roll

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Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#29 - 2013-09-11 10:43:31 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Eve is an arena. In it's entirety. Intellect is your weapon, your ship merely the tip of the spear.

One of the statements I actually agree with.

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#30 - 2013-09-11 10:44:29 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Eve is an arena. In it's entirety. Intellect is your weapon, your ship merely the tip of the spear.

One of the statements I actually agree with.


Just the tip?

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2013-09-11 10:45:14 UTC
embrel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
embrel wrote:


and if feasible on the Test server, I imagine someone will have tried doing that during the decade of Eves existence. What happened?


Nobody who plays EVE is interested in it.


well, I'm not, however, could you elaborate?

Is it like: Nobody is interested in it and that's why nobody tried to set it up in the first place or rather like: various trials in the past, but nobody was interested so it died a quick death?


Mostly the fact that while it has been done the Alliance Tournament and the Syndicate Competitive League showed just how much work it takes to run these things succesfully. I think the amount of dev time it would take to set up a system that didnt require constant attention to work as well as they did would be enourmous and thats something CCP really cant afford to spend, especially when its a feature that goes directly against one of their stated design goals for their game.

Having said that if say they designed it as a seperate system for organising E-Sports events and tournaments I think it would be a cool idea, just as long it remained outside the core game.

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Rahool
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-09-11 10:47:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Rahool
I think this is a really good idea. However, the 1 v 1 match ups should be based on the amount of skill points a player has or it just won't be fair.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2013-09-11 10:58:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


it would not change a thing on the economy


They did the exact same thing in galaxies and the economy collapsed inside two weeks.


the opposite would happen, implemented the right way people would start intense grinding for the best ships, they would need to get to nullsec and WH space to get those most expensive modules, they would loose ships going there and stuff, it would even stimulate nullsec roaming etc.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-09-11 11:01:57 UTC
idea: capsuleers can capture rat spaceships and proxy fight with them in arenas in pocket rat battles
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#35 - 2013-09-11 11:02:18 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Arenas won't work, because in Eve there is no instances or space that others cannot enter, thus anybody could warp in to interfere with the people in the arena. If arenas are ever implemented I can see a huge tear faucet being created, probably with smartbombs or roving destroyer fleets.


you could not enter arenas, its locked out space, your foolish gameplay won't work there... it should be programmed that way

this is for competitive gamers, not just some douchebags who want to destroy other gamers fun

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#36 - 2013-09-11 11:04:33 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
some dumb rant about killmails on some killboard website


learn to eve, dumbass.

but I do agree that we need a league where everyone can participate.

how about regional leagues? and then the winners would compete in a galactic league!

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#37 - 2013-09-11 11:04:42 UTC
Competitive gamers are already out there, shooting each others in the face

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2013-09-11 11:05:41 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
embrel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
embrel wrote:


and if feasible on the Test server, I imagine someone will have tried doing that during the decade of Eves existence. What happened?


Nobody who plays EVE is interested in it.


well, I'm not, however, could you elaborate?

Is it like: Nobody is interested in it and that's why nobody tried to set it up in the first place or rather like: various trials in the past, but nobody was interested so it died a quick death?


Mostly the fact that while it has been done the Alliance Tournament and the Syndicate Competitive League showed just how much work it takes to run these things succesfully. I think the amount of dev time it would take to set up a system that didnt require constant attention to work as well as they did would be enourmous and thats something CCP really cant afford to spend, especially when its a feature that goes directly against one of their stated design goals for their game.

Having said that if say they designed it as a seperate system for organising E-Sports events and tournaments I think it would be a cool idea, just as long it remained outside the core game.


yea I think of it as beeing completely seperated however accessible in the game, like a button below the undock button, "enter arena" there you have your virtual reality training ground where you can just engage in battles, easy to access but still seperated from the game, more like a game in the game

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Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#39 - 2013-09-11 11:06:26 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

this is for competitive gamers, not just some douchebags who want to destroy other gamers fun


You there! Get out! You don't get this game it is not for you!



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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#40 - 2013-09-11 11:08:41 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
a game in the game


This is exactly why it's a stupid, redundant and boring idea.

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