Player Features and Ideas Discussion

you just repeat what the others say, this is not about explaining the sandbox, I understand the sandbox

this is a conversation about competitive gaming and to creat an environment for that

if you want to discuss how cool sandbox is, please open your own thread, here we only want to talk about competitive gaming and the people who understand it

thanks

there are no arenas available.

please stop talking about the sandbox

this thread is about arenas, and leagues

thanks for understanding

if you don't have anything to add to the topic please move on, we do not discuss different games here, we do not discuss sandbox here, we do not discuss the gamemodes available in eve, we just discuss areans and leagues

again, we don't talk about sandbox we talk about arenas here, its like a different game, seperated from the sandbox, you don't get that? you don't want to talk about that part? fine, please move on you are just disturbing the conversation

there are many games that offer arenas, does it hold back people to play the sanbox in eve, nope... will eve arenas hold people back from playing the sandbox then, nope, its a different game, please stop beeing silly, thanks

do people play arenas yes, do people play eve yes, so... smartmind, that tells us people already play both, no problem if eve has it as well, and provides that gameplay to players who would leave eve if they want it, they add it, then players stay in eve

they want sanbox, they go to eve, they want arena matchmaking they go to eve as well

you don't understand that players now just logoff if they want instant action, so its not helping the economy either

those two gamemodes have nothing to do with eachother, and thats fine

many people play world of tank next to eve, because they want action, thats a big disadvantage

most of the players have eve just in the background, you need to give them a gamemode where they can stay focused in the game

I'll just drop here what CCP Gollath mentioned in the thread in GD



I am not trying to be mean or put you down, I am literally just giving you alternative suggestions which you might enjoy more as I don't think null sec or high sec is what your play style gives.

Although if you really want the arenas, the tools for arenas are here, you can create this content like the developers say and want you to do (although with this reputation it might be a little hard to start with). There is a system which the big Red Versus Blue Corporation use for frigates, and you can do a lot of this kind of thing in Faction Warfare. Next to that nothing is stopping you from actually setting this up.

I understand that this is not a button that puts you in a arena, but that specific element, just that is what goes so against the sandbox and my apologies for using the sandbox, but it is true as it breaks immersion (or would need a good thought out alternative maybe like the simulator combined with WiS content which I support) and would affect the gameplay if there are no consequences or risk in this element.

A lot of big games do have this arena system, and I would agree that this is the majority of the players who would want such a thing, but it is a seriously dangerous step if CCP would choose to go this way as the majority of their community who has been here for a long time would never support this. It would change the players, and the game. There are already a lot of ways to get quick fights going and seriously you should try them as opposed to high sec and null sec, I would also agree with you that there are a lot of boring players in those high sec and null sec systems. But seriously try out low sec and FW there, there are a lot more solo players and little gangs going. Or join RVB for many instant fights in their constant war.

Next to that Wormholes are awesome.

Harry, it sounds like you're not happy with EVE Online. This is not an arena game, but even so the developers do hold arena style events like the Alliance Tournaments. Even so, the losses in those events are permanent like in regular combat. The closest things EVE has to regular arena combat is faction warfare, and from what I understand it fits most of the criteria you're looking for.

If players are logging off because they can't find combat in EVE Online then they're doing it wrong. If they're playing World of Tanks (or other arena style games) that's fine because we didn't sign any contracts with our purchase of EVE limiting us to EVE and only EVE. I run multiple EVE accounts and am loving War Thunder as well. I suggest you try any of the many arena style titles available right now - many of them free to play.

factional warfare does not offer what I'm searching for, if you search for 10 vs. 10, 50 vs. 50 you will search forever and not find it

there are just the normal 10 vs. 1 fights, or the 5 year skilled player shooting the 1 year skilled, uneven fights thats not challanging gameplay, its just about hording up as much people as possible to blob, or to fnd a new gamer that engages and looses

if you really want a challanging fight you wait for hours, its just cat and mouse game all the time, some are cats some are the mouse

you guys should not just sit in the station and play the game to realize this

the gamemode i propose will have those 10 vs. 10, 50 vs. 50 even fights within 30 seconds over a matchup system provided by the client, thats how its done in modern games and thats what is needed also in eve

that type of gameply is missing and thats the type of gameplay that has the biggest playerbase

attractig those players would just be a smart move, CCP tried with Dust, however I think they should have tried this in eve with an arena and league matchup system

Yeah, Harry clearly just wants to argue. He's completely ignoring any and all suggestions on how to achieve what he wants with the tools that are available and continues to demand WOW type arena combat. He's got to be a troll.

Or a douche.

I still can't decide.

1) you still don't realize that the big fights are awesome because they don't happen every day, and because they cost actual ISK, take a lot of time prepare and have consequences in the wars? It's not the pressing F1 part that is great about PVP, it's the build-up, tactics and outcome.

2) if you think 1000 people can form a fleet complete with assigned roles and agree to execute any kind of tactics in your "30 seconds" you're just clueless about how fleets work

You're confusing competitive with Forvever-syndrome: a rare and unfortunate condition with features of lazyness, ADD and risk-aversion tied together with ignorance and messiah-complex.

1. you don't understand any games

2. no, they will be a chaotic mess with totally random outcomes

Yes, we play EVE, you are free to play other games with the consentual, meaningless and boring gameplay you like

You act like you are the one who knows what everyone else likes, when you know nothing of the game you are posting about, and continue trying to dictate what CCP should waste their dev time on.