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Bane Hellblaze
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-09-10 22:28:28 UTC
hi all, im kinda new to the cloaky world and am wondering about how to kill people with cloaky and the difrent aspecs of difrent cloakys,,,

firstly im kinda a new pilot with 3m+ sp atm most of it is in gunnery, tho i have solid tanking skills and gal frigs 5,

my first question is, would a stealth bomber be worth the long torpedo train? if im only going to use it every so often?

the real point of this noob post... on a proteus, with coaky warpy sub, and a cove ops cloak, will i get to start locking people as soon as i drop out of cloak? or will i need a delay of some sort b4 i start start locking a target?

with this delay and new rail bonuses would a rail proteus be awsome? or the raw killing power of blasters is still unmatched?

thank you for your time
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-09-10 22:54:05 UTC
All cloaking devices have a "recalibration delay" after you shut them off before you can start locking up targets, which is reduced by your Cloaking skill; a covops cloak has a delay of either 6 seconds or 5, depending on whether you've got Cloaking trained to 4 or 5. Two types of ships have hull bonuses negating that delay: stealth bombers and black-ops battleships (though Black Ops can't fit covert-ops cloaks).

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-09-11 07:44:48 UTC
Bane Hellblaze wrote:
hi all, im kinda new to the cloaky world and am wondering about how to kill people with cloaky and the difrent aspecs of difrent cloakys,,,

firstly im kinda a new pilot with 3m+ sp atm most of it is in gunnery, tho i have solid tanking skills and gal frigs 5,

my first question is, would a stealth bomber be worth the long torpedo train? if im only going to use it every so often?

the real point of this noob post... on a proteus, with coaky warpy sub, and a cove ops cloak, will i get to start locking people as soon as i drop out of cloak? or will i need a delay of some sort b4 i start start locking a target?

with this delay and new rail bonuses would a rail proteus be awsome? or the raw killing power of blasters is still unmatched?

thank you for your time

If you want to go cloaky killer you really can't beat cloaky proteus. 700dps, 100k ehp, lock speed of a cruiser . I have managed to get the delay after decloak to 4.5 seconds which is not that much considering realisation and reaction will take about 1.5 to 2 seconds. Add server delay and its hardly noticeable.

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#4 - 2013-09-11 20:34:48 UTC
cloakers do not kill, they just afk.
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#5 - 2013-09-12 06:11:44 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
cloakers do not kill, they just afk.


I believe you're referring to clockers.

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Lychton Kondur
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#6 - 2013-09-13 19:28:41 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

If you want to go cloaky killer you really can't beat cloaky proteus. 700dps, 100k ehp, lock speed of a cruiser . I have managed to get the delay after decloak to 4.5 seconds which is not that much considering realisation and reaction will take about 1.5 to 2 seconds. Add server delay and its hardly noticeable.



Oh man, this. I can't even count how many times a Proteus had me wrapped up within 2 seconds. Bye, bye, battleship.
Baggo Hammers
#7 - 2013-09-14 02:05:23 UTC
JAF Anders wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
cloakers do not kill, they just afk.


I believe you're referring to clockers.



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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-09-14 04:10:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
There are lots of ways to play cloaky killer, as well as the much maligned clocky-AFKer option already mentioned.

Stealth Bombers are, IMHO, a superb place to start. They are awesomely versatile little ships and well flown can solo a surprising range of targets ... and can also die very quickly when poor choices are made. Bombers suffer no target-locking delay after they uncloak, which also makes them great tacklers for covops gangs. A decently skilled stealth bomber is a pretty fast train ... altho it may not seem like that to you at the moment.

T3s are also great fun, but you can start losing serious amounts of isk fairly quickly when you messup with them.

The other main group of covops warriors is the recons. They are not great on the DPS side but can bring some nice EW bonuses onto the field, and the pilgrim can doubkle as a covops logi with its decent drone bay.

The other fun area of covops play is BLOPS-dropping, and if you stick with the genre you will doubtlessly get there also.

If you're game to give bombers a whirl, the Bombers Bar may be a great place to start getting experience. Checkout the chat channel of the same name, or do some searching for their webites. I don;t know how active or how welcoming they are these days but they used to be a superb place to get lots of good cloaky-f.a.g experience.

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