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GM clarification on rewording of the Terms of Service

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Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#421 - 2013-09-11 17:51:37 UTC
I'm currently sitting in a T2-fit Ibis named "Beginner don't shoot"
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NOBAN PLS!
Reckless Ourtomineng
#422 - 2013-09-11 17:52:54 UTC
There should be more threads like this about eve wrong stuff, eve would be a better a place :).
Censorship leads to frustration or even leaving the game.
Listening to player base instead makes the company look better and makes player happier.

I don't care much about scamming (even if the impersonating stuff went a little to far tbh,make clear rules) but threads like this makes me feel alive , or at least beeing part of something.
Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#423 - 2013-09-11 17:52:56 UTC
I'm a member of Goonswarm Federation.

I'd like to report myself for claiming to be a member of Goonswarm Federation because obviously this character is in an NPC corp. GM Karidor ban me for impersonation please.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
Nosur Alland
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#424 - 2013-09-11 17:53:32 UTC
and once again you are all wrong since I am, the one and only true SPARTACUS
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#425 - 2013-09-11 17:53:47 UTC
22 pages and we still have the same explanation from a couple days ago with more words that don't clarify anything.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#426 - 2013-09-11 17:55:50 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
22 pages and we still have the same explanation from a couple days ago with more words that don't clarify anything.

That's not entirely fair. We now have more words that explain that it has grown into something much bigger than before, as opposed to the old words that tried to (incorrectly) claim that nothing had changed.
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#427 - 2013-09-11 17:56:00 UTC
Capqu wrote:
hi im chribba's alt open for 3rd party services


Pardon me sir, but you are not Chribba's alt. I am. You have been "petitioned." I hope you enjoy your ban. Pirate

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#428 - 2013-09-11 17:56:32 UTC
Kat Ayclism wrote:
I, too, may, or may not, be Barf McSwaggert.


I too, may, or may not, be Burt McSwagartist.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#429 - 2013-09-11 17:57:05 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
22 pages and we still have the same explanation from a couple days ago with more words that don't clarify anything.

Oh no, we've gotten plenty of clarification, it's just been "the rules have always been more terrible than anyone anticipated".

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#430 - 2013-09-11 17:57:52 UTC
Theophilas wrote:
Did you dumbbells just frigging ban awoxing with this dumb TOS update?

Where's my goddamn butterfly effect????????????


Spais are also now against the TOS.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Echo Echoplex
#431 - 2013-09-11 17:58:11 UTC
Yeep wrote:
If anyone outside the CFC wants to continue to run a CFC rental scam in light of these new rules then for 500m ISK you can use my name when you get petitioned and I'll tell the GMs you are a legit representative of the CFC.

Lol Is there a Love button here somewhere?

By the way, I wonder if this'll make more headlines than Burn Jita. GM-generated content best content!

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#432 - 2013-09-11 17:58:11 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
22 pages and we still have the same explanation from a couple days ago with more words that don't clarify anything.

Oh no, we've gotten plenty of clarification, it's just been "the rules have always been more terrible than anyone anticipated".


And by extension the GM team is far more terrible than we ever imagined. (and that is saying something)

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#433 - 2013-09-11 18:02:01 UTC
I'd like to take this opportunity to report my self for falsely representing my....self... as belonging to the group of players known as "people who give a flying **** about eve anymore". I just realised I no longer belong to the group and as such should be banned for falsely representing myself to the community.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#434 - 2013-09-11 18:02:26 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
22 pages and we still have the same explanation from a couple days ago with more words that don't clarify anything.

Oh no, we've gotten plenty of clarification, it's just been "the rules have always been more terrible than anyone anticipated".

So, should we bend over a little more, how much?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kazruw Drol
State War Academy
Caldari State
#435 - 2013-09-11 18:03:06 UTC
I, Spartacus, suggest that you all make backups of boot.ini since CCP seems to be returning to their old habits.

I may or may not be impersonating one of my alts or vice versa.

KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#436 - 2013-09-11 18:03:27 UTC
While we have a break in the action... (and my head IS still spinning around this...) -

I applaud the many Goons for seriously engaging to get this all straightened out, but is it only me that feels a bit of irony in that this "clarification" does bolster their new renting efforts?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.... LOL

I now return you to the same bat thread, on the same bat channel...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#437 - 2013-09-11 18:04:02 UTC
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
There should be more threads like this about eve wrong stuff, eve would be a better a place :).
Censorship leads to frustration or even leaving the game.
Listening to player base instead makes the company look better and makes player happier.

I don't care much about scamming (even if the impersonating stuff went a little to far tbh,make clear rules) but threads like this makes me feel alive , or at least beeing part of something.

They have clearly been listening with their game-changing "clarifications", and their boilerplate copy and paste and "this is not the change you are looking for"

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#438 - 2013-09-11 18:04:23 UTC
So if I'm reading this right the "clarification" bans scamming and most of the metagame. Two huge sources of free advertising for CCP, why is this a good idea now?

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Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#439 - 2013-09-11 18:04:33 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
While we have a break in the action... (and my head IS still spinning around this...) -

I applaud the many Goons for seriously engaging to get this all straightened out, but is it only me that feels a bit of irony in that this "clarification" does bolster their new renting efforts?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.... LOL

I now return you to the same bat thread, on the same bat channel...


The great irony in this is we had just banned scamming for rentals internally and were converting our best scammers to "rental agents". Now this. Lololol so meta

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#440 - 2013-09-11 18:06:52 UTC
At this point, anything I would like to say in regards to the re-clarification of the clarification of the clarification of the ToS has already been said. All I can add at this point is that I would be taken out back and given the Ol' Yeller treatment if I ever submitted a ToS revision like this. Its bad, the "clarification" is still bad, and the specific GM/CCP policies still need to outlined appropriately to prevent ambiguity in interpretation of the language of the three clauses quoted, especially the discrepancy between the first two specifically calling out the "identity' of entities versus the lack of such language in the new ToS change.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword