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Eve Miners Guide to the New Order of Highsec (A.K.A. James 315 and his gang), Part 1

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Kharmha
Sttarrlighte Industries
#1 - 2013-09-10 03:23:12 UTC
A little over a year ago EVE encountered a new terror, a new threat, something dire to the miners who

keep the economy running.....ahh who am i kidding?, it was just james 315 who started to demand miners pay him

for the rights to mine ore in systems that he claims where his. While an annoyance, he at first really didnt do

much other then bump miners in his quest to demand that "miners giev me isk or i teh bump" (His actual saying at

the time). Most miners, myself included, simply laughed off the crackpot he is, and would continue to mine,

suffering the occasional bump from him in his "invincible stabber".
This continued for some time, he would suddenly log in, apear in belts, and annoy miners, then claim

some mythical victory cause he "cost them isk" by stopping them from mining for a few minutes. Miners started to

develop some tactics (which worked for a short time), to avoid him while continuing to mine, which would only

annoy him to the point that he would log out to the relief of the local miners.
After some time he managed to rally a few pvp'ers to his side and they would occasionaly try to gank the

miners in the belts. Sometimes it worked, usualy it simply failed. For every successful gank, he would claim

another mythical victory over the miners, even thou for every victory there was a dozzen or more failures. A

short time after james and his gang started to use ganks as a way of "winning", miners started to organize a bit

more, even to the point of using throwaway toons to purposely draw concord ships to the belts simply for the

protection from gankers they gave. This reduced the responce time of concord ships to mere seconds when before

it could be 15 or even 20 seconds before a responce.
Ganking of miners took a nose dive for a brief period of time, and miners once more where busy at work

in belts, bringing in the much needed resources for everything from the basic frigate all the way up to the

mightiest of titans. After a few weeks, james and his gang (who was only a dozzen or so at the time), came up

with the idea of pulling concord from the belts just before a gank. Quite simply they would do something

elsewhere in system, far away from the belt, to pull the concord ships from the belts. As soon as the concord

ships would warp out, they where warping in and attacking miners, raising their time to gank from a few seconds

back up to 15 or 20 seconds, sometimes even more.
Once again mining fell, slowed down by the attacks, and james would claim victories in his disruptions

of the miners efforts. He combined this with several other tactics he developed, such as taunting miners to

attack him (causing concord to attack the miners), and dareing miners into duels (which they had to sacrifice an

expensive ship to him to earn the right to duel him). Typicaly after a miner would use up a ship in such a

manor, he would claim it wasent enough, decline to duel, and usualy log off, to the miners who where annoyed.
Again more tactics where developed by the bright miners, such as having bookmarks 300km away from the

belt, staying alligned to a station, and orbiting the roids they where mining, all to avoid being ganked. Most

of the time this worked, but the few times here and there it failed was enough for james to continue claiming

victories over the miners.
This entire time i had been mining, and managed to always avoid ganks (yes, i have never lost a mining

ship to james or his gang), simply because i was always careful and used tactics like i mentioned, and others

most people didnt know about. Let me give you a few of the tactics i used effectivly, that has still kept me

from loosing a barge or any other mining ship.
First, anyone i knew to be a ganker, or otherwize affiliated with james i had on my contact list with a

-10 standing. This had the effect of also placing a nice red flag on their names in local, so by simply paying

attention to local i knew when one or more where in system. Second, if i was expecting a posible gank attack

(i.e. some of them where in local), i would have my ship alligned either to a station, or some other location

that i had a bookmark of. In the first system i was frequently mining in, i typicaly had 50 or more bookmarks at

the ready incase i needed to vacate a belt. To keep from drifting to far from a roid while aligned, i simply

turned down my speed to 1 m/s effectivly keeping me alligned, and also keeping me near the roid i was mining.
Third, i had my d-scanner open the entire time i was mining, and had set the range for about half an

a.u. in a 360 direction. I then would ping my d-scanner every 20 seconds or so while mining. If set just right i

wouldent see any ships on my d-scanner, untill they where 10-15 seconds away from dropping out of warp into the

belt i was in. When i would see a ship on scanner, likely warping in to gank me, i would simply dock with a

station or warp to a bookmark i was already alligned to, jumping out of the belt either a few seconds before or

after the ganker arived in belt. No matter what i always managed to avoid the ganks by simply not being there

anymore. That was my working method, avoid the gank, tease the ganker over local, and yet still keep bringing in

ore the entire time.
The gankers scouted me out and would try to gank me as i undocked from the station, ild counter with a

bookmark 300km away from the station in the direction i would undock from. They would eventully get a bookmark

of where my bookmark was, ild change it to a new location 150 km away from the old bookmark. On and on the game

played, all the while i was annoying the gankers and james.
Kharmha
Sttarrlighte Industries
#2 - 2013-09-10 03:24:03 UTC

After some time of this game i descided i would become the aggressor and attack james, since he was the

figurehead of his organization. I would wait for him to be annoying miners, and ild fly a destroyer out to the

belt, and attack him. Always it was a failure, and concord would show up and kill my destroyer. Again i changed

tactics and learned from my mistakes. I fit a few ships with passive targeters (so he wouldent know i had him

locked), and with ship scanners (so i could find out just what he had on his invincible stabber). After a few

scans of his ship (over several days time), i finaly had an idea of what he had fit on his stabber, what

benifits it gave him, and more important, what vulnerabilities he had.
Bidding my time i learned up the skills i needed to exploit his weaknesses, built up ships with just the

right fittings, and mined ore up while waiting. Thus began my trip down the pvp road, as i plotted to gank

james. Not only was i plotting to gank him, but i wanted to pod him and claim his corpse. The first time i

attempted to gank him, my efforts where for not, i dont think i even took his shields down to half strength,

mearly cause i was using weapons that had lesser effect on his ship and how it was set up. I learned, adjusted,

and waited yet more.
A few days later i had another chance, and i tried yet again. This time i did better, but i barely got

past his shields this time, and just scratched his armor. Fustrated at another failed attempt, i retreated to

dock, read yet more on how weapons, shields and ships worked. I studded and calculated why my attempted at

ganking him had failed, and learned how to improve myself to be able to damage him faster. Ill admit, he does

have some well fit stabbers, but invincible they are not. A week later i had my 3rd chance at him, and again i

pounced on it. This time i did remarkable well, managing to break through his shields and vaporize most of his

armor, but i had made a mistake and had not linked all my weapons. Even worse, in my haste to fire on him i had

failed to click on 2 of my 8 guns.
Once again in my pod, but realizing i nearly had him, i retreated back to dock, while watching james try

and taunt me on local. However, within minutes of my failed gank on him he logged out. Had i finaly worried him?

Had i shaken his resolve that no one could gank him? Its posible, as i didnt see him back online for nearly a

week. All that week i was training new skills, ones that would let me fit new parts on my ships, for enhanced

damage, faster targeting, faster reloading, all skills to allow me to do more damage faster then before. I made

sure to link all my weapons, fit them with faction ammo, flew frigates and made bookmarks in key locations,

slowly preparing for his return.
Six days after my last failed gank on him, while sitting in a belt and mining, i suddenly saw him log

in. Promptly i docked up my retriever and took out my destroyer, undocked, and jumped out to a bookmark i had,

one which was near to the ice belt he favored, yet was still over 500km away, making me be out of his sight,

except on d-scanner. I aligned to the belt, built up speed, and waited, hitting my d-scanner every few seconds.
I kept quiet on local, not even saying anything when he tried to taunt me, and watched as he would say "so and

so, giev me isk or i teh bump!" to miners all over the system. He was hitting the roid belts, which where not

near the ice belt i had planned to use as my target.
Suddenly luck was on my side, i saw his stabber show up on d-scan, and was ready to jump in when i

realized i didnt know where he was in the ice belt, and likely if i jumped in he would simply leave the belt

avoiding a gank from me. However on d-scan i also saw a few barges who where mining ice, so i waited and waited

till he started to demand isk from a ice miner. Promptly i sent the miner a tell, and asked if i could fleet

with him, explaining i was set up to gank james, i just didnt know exacaly where he was. This miner obviously

had been ganked before by someone in his fleet, and declined to add me to his fleet, shutting down the

conversation i had with him.
So i waited and waited more, james stayed in system, maybe thinking i was afk and no threat to him.

Again luck turned in my favor, as a friend of mine logged in, and being a known ice miner, i quickly sent him a

conversation, explaining my plans and asking him to be the "bait". Having been ganked before by some of james

gang, and bumped many times by james he quickly agree'ed, we formed a fleet, and he jumped out to the ice belt

and started to mine ice. Of course, this infuriated james, even worse then a miner refusing to pay and refusing

to leave a belt, here was a miner starting to mine in defiance of james, while he was already in the belt!
Unable to resist, he started making his demands and in the conversation with my friend i was told how

far away he was and as he neared him. Making sure not to jump to fast, i let james bump my friend away from the

ice roids once, and he slowly made his way back, all the while james was making his demands known on local. Once

my friend was again in range of a roid, he started mining as i finished getting ready to jump, i went to full

speed, aligned on my friend, and waited for him to say james was in range. "He is about 60km away, 50, 40, 30,

in range, go go!"
Kharmha
Sttarrlighte Industries
#3 - 2013-09-10 03:24:50 UTC
Jumping in at 10km from my friend i realized with a grin i had managed to suprise james, as in his

heading towards my friend i had jumped in right between them! Better yet, james was only about 5km away from me!

I locked him up as james tried to turn away from his planned bump, but luck was not on his side today, as he

still bumped into my friend even as he tried to turn away. As anyone who has been bumped by james knows, you get

bumped away from the roid, but usualy james gets bumped away from you and basicly looses a bit of control over

his movements for a few brief seconds as he basicly bounces off your ship. As all this happened, i had hit my

key to constantly be approaching james, and followed it by hitting my linked weapons to shoot at him. After

clicking on the warning that popped up that i was doing an illegal action, my guns started to fire on him. one,

two seconds, on the third second his shields where nearly gone. In the fourth second i started to vaporize his

armor (which didnt last long), and by the fifth second his armor was almost gone. Second six flashed by and the

last of his armor was vanishing, but i knew concord was probaly on its way already, i needed to hurry, i had

maybe 5 to 10 seconds more.
Since my ship was going to be killed by concord, i quickly overloaded my weapons, burning them up to do

more damage faster, as i saw him going into structure. At second 8 as james was starting to get deep into

structure, i saw the first of concord ships ariving in belt, i was almost out of time! I also noticed that he

was using his afterburners (or maybe mwd) to try and get distance from me. At second 9 i could see smoke coming

from his stabber, as i heard the ominous sounds of concord locking on to me, i had 1 maybe 2 more seconds to go.

With a final burst from my guns, just as concord was webbing, scrambling me, and starting to jam me, i saw a

glorious explosion as james invincible stabber finaly fell to my guns and exploded. I wanted to try and lock his

pod as it showed up on local, but alas concord already had me into structure and i knew podding him was not an

option this day.
Almost at the same time, james and i both jumped out of the belt, heading towards different stations,

but both in our pods. My friend, still alive in his retriever, quickly got in range of both james wreck and

mine, looting both of them of everything posible, then in turn he also docked up, all the while seeing me taunt

james over local. Other miners at first not believing it, where indicated to warp to the ice belt to see his

wreck, and upon seeing it promptly started to also taunt james over local. Within a minute or so after all the

action, james quietly logged off, and wasent seen for nearly 2 weeks time.

(To be Continued)
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2013-09-10 03:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Meine augen! Shocked

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#5 - 2013-09-10 03:30:36 UTC
Somehow the formatting of this seems odd

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Rennseslear X
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-09-10 04:07:03 UTC
i guess maybe some people dont use, or dont know about having more than one char on an account, but when you dont see someone....its most likely because they are playing on an alt. just something that stood out to me, like it was something you did.

EWE OAR SOFA KING WE TALL DID

Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-09-10 04:08:01 UTC
Sadly the enter key can not be weaponized.
Luc Chastot
#8 - 2013-09-10 04:11:00 UTC
You're going to need some proof in here of what you say you did.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#9 - 2013-09-10 04:14:37 UTC
I didn't read this but if this is some alt of this james 2844728474 then he sucks at much at thinking of a name as posting a wall of text.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#10 - 2013-09-10 04:23:31 UTC
Quote:
While an annoyance, he at first really didnt do

much other then bump miners in his quest to demand that "miners giev me isk or i teh bump" (His actual saying at

the time).
James 315 has never said this. It is clear you are falsely representing another player.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-09-10 04:25:03 UTC
Kharmha wrote:

even to the point of using throwaway toons to purposely draw concord ships to the belts simply for the

protection from gankers they gave.


There are two bannable offences being used here.
Nathalie LaPorte
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-09-10 04:26:16 UTC
1: OP doesn't know that moving at 1 m/s (and not webbed) means you are not aligned.

2: OP doesn't know that writing thousands of words while lacking a KM is a waste of a long lie.

3: OP doesn't know that misrepresenting himself as belonging to the group of people who have killed the invincible stabber (real membership = 0) is now against the TOS and bannable.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#13 - 2013-09-10 04:29:33 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Kharmha wrote:

even to the point of using throwaway toons to purposely draw concord ships to the belts simply for the

protection from gankers they gave.


There are two bannable offences being used here.

i only see one? i suppose the first bannable offence is the one that matters, though

unless double-spacing is bannable which it really should be
Nathalie LaPorte
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-09-10 04:31:09 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Kharmha wrote:

even to the point of using throwaway toons to purposely draw concord ships to the belts simply for the

protection from gankers they gave.


There are two bannable offences being used here.

i only see one? i suppose the first bannable offence is the one that matters, though

unless double-spacing is bannable which it really should be


She's a member of brothers of khamra but is clearly a female toon, that's a false representation of membership in a group which she clearly doesn't qualify for.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-09-10 04:33:33 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Kharmha wrote:

even to the point of using throwaway toons to purposely draw concord ships to the belts simply for the

protection from gankers they gave.


There are two bannable offences being used here.

i only see one? i suppose the first bannable offence is the one that matters, though

unless double-spacing is bannable which it really should be


Throwaway alts and exploiting the concord mechanics.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#16 - 2013-09-10 04:36:20 UTC
Nah, going GCC

to move

CONCORD around
is fine

Throwaway alts, however,

is against
the rules
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2013-09-10 05:03:06 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Nah, going GCC

to move

CONCORD around
is fine

Throwaway alts, however,

is against
the rules


Spawning concord for protection has been deemed an exploit.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#18 - 2013-09-10 05:11:24 UTC
I really doubt it, considering spawning or moving CONCORD away from a gank is allowed. Have you heard that from an official source?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-09-10 05:14:36 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
I really doubt it, considering spawning or moving CONCORD away from a gank is allowed. Have you heard that from an official source?


Yes. CCP deemed it an exploit when we did the second interdiction as Concord is not meant to be on grid protecting people. We got a good number of alt accounts in ibis banned for doing this.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#20 - 2013-09-10 05:20:16 UTC
I'll believe you, then. It's nonsense, though. CONCORD isn't ~supposed~ to do anything except either spawn or warp around. If it's supposed to not sit on grid, CCP should change the mechanic instead of halfarseing a double-standard rule.
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