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Lying About Identity No Longer Allowed Under EULA

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Lady Areola Fappington
#161 - 2013-09-10 15:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Areola Fappington
Aryth wrote:


I know you didn't seriously recommend someone pay for those books. I did and I feel eternal shame for it. They are that bad.



My good Goonsir, I said pick up, not purchase. Empyrean Age is reasonably good to get an idea of how awful life in New Eden really is. I couldn't get into Templar One, and the latest book I think I managed one chapter before it got deleted.

I mean, in my own defense, I've read C.S. Groto and Matt Ward books. My taste in books may be forever skewed by the awfulness of those two.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#162 - 2013-09-10 15:40:15 UTC
Is this a scandal yet?



☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#163 - 2013-09-10 15:44:45 UTC
The Git wrote:
The game is about space ships, asteroids, pew pew, stations, fighting.........but don't some of you get the impression that the game is becoming defined by how ****** you can treat other players?

I've tried to bring several people into the game...only to see them leave fairly quickly for a combination of two influences; the complexity of the game coupled with what they felt was a needless level of paranoia caused by the constant worry that someone, anyone, everyone, is trying to steal your stuff.

Which is why we survive and why they didn't. We are stronger than them and can deal with it.

 ♥ 
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#164 - 2013-09-10 15:47:33 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
The Git wrote:
The game is about space ships, asteroids, pew pew, stations, fighting.........but don't some of you get the impression that the game is becoming defined by how ****** you can treat other players?

I've tried to bring several people into the game...only to see them leave fairly quickly for a combination of two influences; the complexity of the game coupled with what they felt was a needless level of paranoia caused by the constant worry that someone, anyone, everyone, is trying to steal your stuff.

Which is why we survive and why they didn't. We are stronger than them and can deal with it.

Which is why they need more npc protection.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#165 - 2013-09-10 15:55:45 UTC
hello boys ;)

my name is blawrf Bear but you can call me michelle Blink
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#166 - 2013-09-10 16:02:55 UTC
Scammer tears. Delicious.
handbanana
State War Academy
Caldari State
#167 - 2013-09-10 16:13:26 UTC
Look at all the butthurt goons in this thread. Daawww, It warms my twisted little heart.

I believe this calls for a hearty: HTFU lads!

“It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.”    -Jack Handy
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#168 - 2013-09-10 16:14:30 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
in my own defense, I've read C.S. Groto and Matt Ward books.


Oh my, and you can haven't ripped your eyes out? Well done!
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#169 - 2013-09-10 16:14:46 UTC
The Git wrote:
The game is about space ships, asteroids, pew pew, stations, fighting.........but don't some of you get the impression that the game is becoming defined by how ****** you can treat other players?

no, it always has been

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#170 - 2013-09-10 16:26:37 UTC
So much forgetting that CCP owns all aspects of EVE, including every single thing that happens on the server.

None of it, not even your accomplishments in-game, are technically yours at all.

THAT is the way it's always been. They have the right to declare whatever they want to declare.

You agree to this idea when you accept the EULA.

If you like it not, there are plenty of other elaborate time wasters out there.

Now, complain when they truly act like EA, like trying to turn the ultimate solo game ever, SimCity, into an MMO.

THEN complain all you want.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#171 - 2013-09-10 16:28:46 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
So much forgetting that CCP owns all aspects of EVE, including every single thing that happens on the server.

None of it, not even your accomplishments in-game, are technically yours at all.

THAT is the way it's always been. They have the right to declare whatever they want to declare.

You agree to this idea when you accept the EULA.

If you like it not, there are plenty of other elaborate time wasters out there.

Now, complain when they truly act like EA, like trying to turn the ultimate solo game ever, SimCity, into an MMO.

THEN complain all you want.


Cool, thanks for the legalism that adds nothing to the discussion whatsoever.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2013-09-10 16:29:12 UTC
How dare you discuss things here in the General Discussion forum.
ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#173 - 2013-09-10 16:30:45 UTC
Deleted post discussing moderation and banning.


C'mon people, I _WANT_ to see this thread stay open.

ISD Cura Ursus

Lieutenant Commander

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#174 - 2013-09-10 16:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:

Cool, thanks for the legalism that adds nothing to the discussion whatsoever.



Legalism ? Where ? For real ? Sheesh....I had absolutely no idea................how utterly silly of me.

I may have contributed trash, but you contributed nothing at all.


edit: grr, Goons. I guess. Or something...........

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#175 - 2013-09-10 16:34:33 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
As guard posted last night, we'll look into this today for you guys..

I'm going to take your concerns, and the concerns highlighted by the CSM directly to the GM Team to get this all ironed out. Whether this is a full explanation of the wording change in detail, or alteration to the wording is to be decided, of course.



Don't worry about it Falcon, the thread is growing because we like to talk, not because we're angry that a pixel spaceships didn't have CCP high command ringing people in the middle of the night for an emergency meeting.


If you could, I think we'd also like to hear that CCP will stop trying to slip major rules changes in under the guise of "clarifications." If it's always been "against the rules", but nobody's been punished for it, and you're going to start punishing people for it, I think that deserves the title of a rules (or policy) change rather than a "clarification."

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#176 - 2013-09-10 16:37:14 UTC
I am Spartacus !
Deep DonkeyPunch
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#177 - 2013-09-10 16:39:17 UTC
unban barracuda ii and dee snider
free pizza

#freebarracuda #freedeesnider
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#178 - 2013-09-10 16:51:31 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:

Or maybe, impersonation became so pervasive that CCP got tired of dealing with the problems that it creates.



True words there.

And probably about to become true as well concerning miner bumping issues.

Those petitions have got to be eating up time and resources.



Look at it this way.

If you have a sandbox, and kids play in it, all well and good. Sandcastles will be bred and slaughtered...


But when there's an epidemic of too many kids taking the pale and shovel and bonking other kids over the head with it, and sandcastles are not being built and it's no longer even about sand, then "mommy" (CCP) is forced to do something about it.


It's always the case.

This is why when people are respectably honest about their intentions, who come into these forums and say outright they want to make people ragequit, to harvest tears, I always tell them that if that's their game, all well and good for them, but it won't last because their goals are meta to the game itself. It's a game about space ships and conquest in space, not RL tear harvesting and aspergian alpha dominance trips. I warn them not to look stupid by being the first to complain about the very thing they abused and brought on.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#179 - 2013-09-10 16:58:00 UTC
I don't even bother to tell my friends about EVE at all anymore.

They finally heard all they needed to know when I was explaining the concept of lame miner bumping, as opposed to ganking.

They cannot understand how I can even stand logging into the same server 'with those people'. They will not ever be CCP customers that's for sure.

And only because of that one thing.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Lady Areola Fappington
#180 - 2013-09-10 16:58:11 UTC
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
Deleted post discussing moderation and banning.


C'mon people, I _WANT_ to see this thread stay open.




I think some of the folks pulling that ate doing it to try to get the thread closed, ISD.

It would be appreciated if you could keep doing what you're doing, some of us are trying to have the dialog asked for. Some of us are honestly trying to stay sorta on-track.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide