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CCP you need to answer the scamming drama in more detail

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Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-09-09 17:55:56 UTC
I understand impersonating names has always been banned. For instance if I make an alt named Chribbba I'm liable to have it renamed. But I've never heard a case of someone saying for instance "I'm working for Chribba you can send me your isk" getting in trouble. Please make a full blog post explaining your reasoning and exactly what the limits of these new rules are. People aren't trying to threadnaught or make trouble for you, we're concerned the game we love just got a lot less dark and unforgiving.

Thank you.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#2 - 2013-09-09 17:56:49 UTC
It's always been like this ever since that GM said so

Fin.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-09-09 17:59:31 UTC
But GMs have been wrong before see GM Haggis and the recruitment channel thing.
Unfortunately CCP locked the one thread now its going to spawn a shitstorm.
Too bad, CCP really should hire better damage control people.
This sort of thing could easily be prevented by answering questions in that thread.
Seriously is it that unreasonable to answer concerns?

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-09-09 18:00:28 UTC
It's always been like this. No comment on the extra thing we added though, just going to lock the thread.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-09-09 18:01:24 UTC
Since it's been clear that it isn't a difference of CFC vs New Order (which I don't know why people think it is since CFC and NO are indeed meta entities and wouldn't fall under this rule) it makes me wonder if it has to do with isk doublers and their "api verified" out of game links.

Unless that other locked thread were to imply CFC was nothing but "npc entities" (Bots?) which I highly doubt.

It was already quite clear that recruitment scams were legit, and NO permits to mine haven't been banned....

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-09-09 18:02:06 UTC
"Land of the sandbox? Whoever told you that is your enemy!" -- Rage Against The Machine*









* not actually Rage Against The Machine

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Kismeteer
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-09-09 18:02:08 UTC
Why have a discussion when you can just say 'Everything is the same' and locking the thread? I mean, if everything is the same, why do we have a TOS change?

And besides, nobody has addressed the fact that impersonating NPCs is now illegal, making groups like Mordus Angels illegal per the TOS. That's a 600 person alliance under threat.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-09-09 18:02:49 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
"Land of the sandbox? Whoever told you that is your enemy!" -- Rage Against The Machine*









* not actually Rage Against The Machine


That disclaimer just saved your account.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#9 - 2013-09-09 18:02:58 UTC
Kismeteer wrote:
Why have a discussion when you can just say 'Everything is the same' and locking the thread? I mean, if everything is the same, why do we have a TOS change?

And besides, nobody has addressed the fact that impersonating NPCs is now illegal, making groups like Mordus Angels illegal per the TOS. That's a 600 person alliance under threat.

Well, maybe everyone should petition them.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#10 - 2013-09-09 18:03:21 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
But GMs have been wrong before see GM Haggis and the recruitment channel thing.
Unfortunately CCP locked the one thread now its going to spawn a shitstorm.
Too bad, CCP really should hire better damage control people.
This sort of thing could easily be prevented by answering questions in that thread.
Seriously is it that unreasonable to answer concerns?

It is.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#11 - 2013-09-09 18:03:55 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
"Land of the sandbox? Whoever told you that is your enemy!" -- Rage Against The Machine*









* not actually Rage Against The Machine


That disclaimer just saved your account.

The rules don't say anything about disclaimers protecting you.

Reported.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2013-09-09 18:04:19 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's always been like this. No comment on the extra thing we added though, just going to lock the thread.

You can laugh until they lock all the new threads

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-09-09 18:07:26 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's always been like this. No comment on the extra thing we added though, just going to lock the thread.

You can laugh until they lock all the new threads


I think its funny, they just closed the hatch on a fire which just caused the container to burst and threw new fires all over the forum.

They should have just let that one somewhat contained fire burn.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Emcera
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-09-09 18:09:55 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's always been like this. No comment on the extra thing we added though, just going to lock the thread.

You can laugh until they lock all the new threads


Since when has cutting off a hydra's head been effective?
Viktor Raybach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-09-09 18:11:31 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's always been like this. No comment on the extra thing we added though, just going to lock the thread.

You can laugh until they lock all the new threads


Those threads have always been locked. We've always been at war with Eastasia
Cyrus Sinak
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-09-09 18:12:21 UTC
Posting in yet another whine thread curiously dominated by gewwns
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-09-09 18:12:30 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
"Land of the sandbox? Whoever told you that is your enemy!" -- Rage Against The Machine*









* not actually Rage Against The Machine

BANNED!
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-09-09 18:13:19 UTC
Cyrus Sinak wrote:
I am Cyrus Sinak and I think the Goons rule the world and I love when they play with my balls! But why did they build the stonehenge?!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#19 - 2013-09-09 18:13:52 UTC
Emcera wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's always been like this. No comment on the extra thing we added though, just going to lock the thread.

You can laugh until they lock all the new threads

Since when has cutting off a hydra's head been effective?

Since the gm said so

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#20 - 2013-09-09 18:14:25 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's always been like this. No comment on the extra thing we added though, just going to lock the thread.

You can laugh until they lock all the new threads


I think its funny, they just closed the hatch on a fire which just caused the container to burst and threw new fires all over the forum.

They should have just let that one somewhat contained fire burn.

They should have done what happened with that q9pp thread, keep everything in the one thread and ignore it

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
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