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At all the nullbears out there is there any reason to keep local chat in null?
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Mirima Thurander
#1 - 2011-10-30 00:47:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
Is there any reason to keep local chat in null?

If its because of it being an easy mode Intel tool that's a reason to remove it.




I'm not happy with the amount of hate mail I'm getting ingame yet more please.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#2 - 2011-10-30 00:52:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentient Blade
Because hitting the dscan button every 30 seconds is tedious in the extreme. Forcing constant manual scanning would harm game enjoyment.

Not to mention completely unrealistic as-is because even now, x-thousand years before EvE, you don't have people sitting on warships pushing a button to make the radar go around once every while.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#3 - 2011-10-30 00:53:08 UTC
Nope. Never seen this thread before.

Katrina Oniseki
Mirima Thurander
#4 - 2011-10-30 00:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
Sentient Blade wrote:
Because hitting the dscan button every 30 seconds is tedious in the extreme. Forcing constant manual scanning would game enjoyment.

Not to mention completely unrealistic as-is because even now, x-thousand years before EvE, you don't have people sitting on warships pushing a button to make the radar go around once every while.




So you like having an easy mode intel tool then?




Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Nope. Never seen this thread before.




i know right?

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-10-30 00:54:29 UTC
well look at it.

Removing of locals been discussed many times. And it will stay just in somewhat tweaked version.

If alliances took their time to secure an region they should have an tool to provide optimal defence for it.

Blob wars are there to stay.

Question is for nullbears .. are there any ?

I mean what possibly an nullbear can do right now.. anomalies ?? hmm one system for few houndred people that would work well,

Mining only possiblity but nobody will give it an try. So basically it will change nothing. Null sec changes somewhat drove the nullbears away of null since they cant keep up with their formerly good isk/hr ratio.

Better idea how to improve small gank movement in enemy nullsec would be different gates to different systems with "maximum mass allowed" That would determine that an small gank could move more freely than an enemy/friendly blob. Better yet programable/interractive gates. when you chose your destinatin and it will let you somewhere nearby the constelation you chose to.

Dont know, i havent gave it much thought but thats about what i get why people wants to get rid off the intel chanells .. is to gank effectively.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-10-30 00:55:04 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
Because hitting the dscan button every 30 seconds is tedious in the extreme. Forcing constant manual scanning would game enjoyment.

Not to mention completely unrealistic as-is because even now, x-thousand years before EvE, you don't have people sitting on warships pushing a button to make the radar go around once every while.


You'd accidently the whole system!

Our AEGIS radar systems watch 360 all the time, it's like having a real time Directional scanner that you never have to do anything with

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#7 - 2011-10-30 00:55:06 UTC
the OP should be castrated with a plastic fork
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#8 - 2011-10-30 00:55:24 UTC
It also gives you Carpal tunnel syndrome - CCP should introduce a proper radar (like in the earths late 1940's) and get rid of local...
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#9 - 2011-10-30 00:55:35 UTC
YES.

Its the best place to get everyone's attention.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#10 - 2011-10-30 00:56:20 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
So you like having an easy mode intel tool then?


Yes - it saves me from getting repetitive strain injury.
Demon View
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-10-30 00:56:48 UTC
If you're genuinely curious, start here. But don't bother looking for the thoughtful rebuttals.
Mirima Thurander
#12 - 2011-10-30 00:58:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
Sentient Blade wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
So you like having an easy mode intel tool then?


Yes - it saves me from getting repetitive strain injury.




To bad there's no such thing as easy mode EvE.



Demon View wrote:
If you're genuinely curious, start here. But don't bother looking for the thoughtful rebuttals.




Wow what a rage post.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Mirima Thurander
#13 - 2011-10-30 01:01:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
boo bad fourms

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#14 - 2011-10-30 01:03:39 UTC
As much as I would like to see local removed. Just removing local would be bad. Until they redo D-scan and add in some defensive scanning ability I don't see local being removed. It would be a hunters paradise and a preys worst nightmare.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
T' Elk
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2011-10-30 01:05:00 UTC
Morganta wrote:
the OP should be castrated with a plastic fork

AAAAAAH MY SELF RESPECT :3

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
Mirima Thurander
#16 - 2011-10-30 01:07:00 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
As much as I would like to see local removed. Just removing local would be bad. Until they redo D-scan and add in some defensive scanning ability I don't see local being removed. It would be a hunters paradise and a preys worst nightmare.





Is that a bad thing?

why not make people have to actively watch there systems they live in rather than have a instant Intel tool tell them there's a neutral/red in system

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#17 - 2011-10-30 01:10:43 UTC
There is a distinct difference between

a) Making things present more of a challenging that can be overcome through tactics and training.

and

b) Making things require a constant stream of mouse clicks for the hell of it. Because dull repetitive actions make good game play.
Demon View
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-10-30 01:16:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Demon View
Mirima Thurander wrote:
why not make people have to actively watch there systems they live in rather than have a instant Intel tool tell them there's a neutral/red in system


What active intel? Cloaked ships don't show up on d-scan. The intel will be "hey I just died.", with nothing it to follow it except maybe some angry chest-beating in local by the victims.
Mirima Thurander
#19 - 2011-10-30 01:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
Sentient Blade wrote:
There is a distinct difference between

a) Making things present more of a challenging that can be overcome through tactics and training.

and

b) Making things require a constant stream of mouse clicks for the hell of it. Because dull repetitive actions make good game play.



no ones forcing you to click d-scan, what i'm getting is you don't like having to depend on your corp mates to provide you Intel to know if there's someone in your system.


i lived in WH space for 7 months and never used d scan, only died 1 time that was while i was taking a leak and lost a gascane
or it might have been a retriever ether way i only died 1 time because of my own actions.


Demon View wrote:


What active intel? Cloaked ships don't show up on d-scan. The intel will be "hey I just died.", with nothing it to follow it except maybe some angry chest-beating in local by the victims.



gate camps, unknown gate flare no ship seen be on lookout for hostiles.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#20 - 2011-10-30 01:20:45 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
As much as I would like to see local removed. Just removing local would be bad. Until they redo D-scan and add in some defensive scanning ability I don't see local being removed. It would be a hunters paradise and a preys worst nightmare.





Is that a bad thing?

why not make people have to actively watch there systems they live in rather than have a instant Intel tool tell them there's a neutral/red in system


It is a bad thing. If you think null is bad now as a hunter imagine when people have very little in the way of defense and intel. There would be a mass exodus from null since its not worth the risk.

The old saying. Be careful what you wish for.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
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