Intergalactic Summit

Not sure what this means, to be honest.

I guess he means that because our actions do not affect him personally or peripherally, they some how have no effect at all. It also seems he is unable or unwilling to do the most cursory of searches that would turn up a wealth of intelligence on our past combat operations, despite our disinterest in the petty kill-counting of the average capsuleer.

The thing that always gets me, is capsuleers in general, even some who have claimed interest in TS-F membership, don't seem to 'get' that we're not dictating policy here. We are instruments of His will, everyone one of us a sword, some of us (such as Tiberious) can offer a mouth through which our admittedly impure, unfiltered consciousness can permit but a fraction of the Master's plan to be spoken in this base forum and others like it. But we do not listen for Nation. We do not speak for Nation but to affirm our loyalty to it.

For all your words and baiting, for your hopes and futile dreams of us coming back into the fold or dying and drifting into obscurity, you may as well try and negotiate the path of a bullet with such flowery prose, than change our collective stance.

The vast majority of us came to Nation of our own free will, but the truth is, the majority of us are but one step on a long road from the sordid, unfulfilled lives we used to lead. The best of us, in fact, is (in my humble opinion) a hollow Bodhisattva, a living ghost that shows us the way - the better parts of him remade and forged into Citizen Arson.

Simply put, we do not answer because you're not only asking the wrong questions, but you're asking the wrong people.

I have spent entirely too many words on this matter, so consider this my only input.

The space zombies are products of a Caldari megalomaniac. Doesn't that mean you should be all over their spikes like a dog in heat, Kim?

NO just no, if proper organization structure, defined ideals are your standard of measurement it would surely mean the Sansha would rate above the Caldari.

Ah yes thank you for putting words in my mouth. I always appreciate that.

-Eran

How do you think the social and political policies of Nation would change if Kuvakei were no longer in power? Let us say that he wanted to see how Nation functioned without his constant supervision, and your collective consciousness was left to its own devices.

Would you just continue to carry out whatever previous objectives Kuvakei had?

Do you think there would be systemic collapse without a unifying vision?

Would you possibly see a major shift in priorities as decisions were based on group desires/goals instead of that of an individual?

I feel that Ms. Polevhia is the only one in the nation who hasn't had her brain surgically removed and replaced with a computer, or however they do that lovely mind control business over there.

It's very telling how most TSF members chest beat with a false sense of superiority (like everyone does) yet are very unwilling to talk about why the believe they are superior.

The Empire claim God made them superior, The Federation claim our society is a light in the darkness, the Caldari claim their hard work and endurance has made them superior, and the Republic claim that they had to struggle to succeed which in turn made them stronger

Debating with (most) Nation loyalist is like trying to issue a command to a computer that it's not programmed to run.

Hmmm... Actually, that's exactly what it's like given we are talking about the Nation. You should have Kuvakei install some better speech software.

I wouldn't consider being confined to a bleak area of Null Security space only to serve as target practice and a source of income for capsuleers as "greatness".

There is a difference between being unable to speak about our motivations and not caring to do so.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is no reason for you to know. Unless you join Nation, we are opposed to you, by simple fact of historical inertia and the past actions that have been visited on us. As much as I, personally, would love to keep an open mind about these things, reality dictates my actions and that of my compatriots.

You do not have our best interests at heart; That being kept in mind, this thread and other threads like it are obvious traps designed to play upon some need to be somehow 'understood' in order to draw us into a rhetorically untenable position. To find a crack in our solidarity, and try to pick at it.

This being the case, it is not in OUR best interests to respond to these threads as though they were legitimate attempts at reaching out. We know they are not. You know they are not. We would rather spend our time building our Utopia and weakening your positions in comparison.

Secondly, we have no need to be understood by outsiders. Bring your ships against us. Attempt to stop us from building our Utopia. You will not succeed, because we are not only the best way of doing things, we are the only tenable path for humanity to save itself from going over the brink. We exercise His will, as it is dictated to us, because He has seen a path through the darkness.

If, heh, I may be permitted to go poetic for a moment.

The information is out there for people to make informed decisions if they are able to track it down and digest it with an unbiased mind. Frankly, and this will come as a shock to some of you, we don't want people to understand us who aren't able to put in the time and mental effort to track it down and interpret it for themselves. That sort of person will end up doing whatever they are asked, no matter who is asking them or the methods used to coerce co-operation.

Care to enlighten me on what you would consider to be an accurate representation of the situation?