Intergalactic Summit

In response to M. Thiesant:



Allow me to express amusement at your rather obvious ignorance of the private military industry, and as it applies to the State in particular. Did you ever pause to consider that not being beholden to public opinion is one of the many reasons the services I provide are in demand? I don't sell consumer goods, and the business of privatized force and violence does not require a positive profile with the general public because it is not the general public that makes use of such services.

Now that's professionally. Personally, it would be a massive mistake waiting to happen to project your own moral, ethical, or legal views as a Federal citizen upon myself. I was not raised in the Federation. My values are not your own. I was raised and taught in an environment that it does not matter how well liked you may or may not be, so long as the job is done. I'm not here to be other people's friends. I'm not here for vainglorious pursuits. I'm not here to seek adulation. What I am here to do, in the position I currently hold, is to do my job whose underlying philosophy is exactly the same as when I was in the Navy, in corporate law, in a mergers and acquisition firm, or doing venture capital investment:

Kill. Or be killed.

My shareholders and my clients do not expect me to be well liked. They care not how many faux friends I am able to cultivate on my social media profile (If I had one). I am tasked with ensuring the viability and profitability of the organization I lead on behalf of its stakeholders. Nothing more, nothing less. In my occupation, ruthlessness is a required trait. If I was unable to act without mercy and compassion in the prosecution of the interests of my stakeholders then I would I say I would be remiss in my own duties and would have failed to meet my obligations. Your assertion that I am in breach of any shareholder agreement is incorrect for Pyre Falcon Defence Combine is not a public company, and its share prices are not subject to the vagaries of the media, opinion, or speculation.

As for claims of illegality due to the revoking of development rights by the former Executor: This was done under dubious legality by an office that no longer exists. Neither the CEP as a whole nor its constituent members have officially rescinded their claims or rights to development of Federal systems. The notion that Caldari Megacorporations would continue to follow the diktats of a man and office that have been dissolved or would cede rights purchased due to them, I would regard to be absolute nonsense. Pyre Falcon Defence Combine will maintain the position that any and all directives issued by the Office of the State Executor to be null and void. As such, it will continue to recognize the purchased development rights of all Megacorporations and will construct its operations upon that basis.

Additionally, the arrangement between the Intaki Assembly and Ishukone Corporation is specific only to the Intaki Assembly and Ishukone Corporation. It is a model, and one that might even be said to work well for the parties involved. It is by no means the precedent for State law, nor is it the only model that can be used between Caldari corporations and Federal worlds in the CEWPA zone.

I'm glad you finally accept the political and military paradigm your world finds itself under, Mlle. Veroe.

First of all, point to any claim I made and I can provide evidence. The actions of your soldiers on Caldari Prime are very well documented. Also, the reason why this war continues is due to both of us I'm afraid. Each side justifying further escalation of the war with a childish "Buuut he hit me fiiiirst!" and "Noooo he hit me fiiirst!" I'm willing to admit that the first official act of war (orbital bombardment) was committed by us during the Gallente- Caldari war, however you can't possibly claim that we are the aggressors when you invade our space and threaten our home world with total annihilation. Really, the best way to stop this war is simply to put the past behind us and drop our guns and both sides need to get a little maturity to do that.

The killings are happening, and there certainly is corruption, however I simply can't say there is proper evidence to condemn the Federation over it. I honestly do feel sorry for the victims of these attacks but I'm not willing to take responsibility for it, mainly because we're not responsible. I know five years of Heth propaganda might make you think differently but we honestly aren't genocidal maniacs. We use our military to defend our people and to assist those that ask for our help. We have absolutely nothing to gain from sending special forces teams to massacre civilians.

Alright, I'll play along. Personally, I don't find any reason to move to Villore or Gallente Prime permanently. The major reason stemming from the fact that whether or not they are under Federal control, I wasn't born there. Being connected to that stupid ceremonial monarchy I can trace my ancestry back to Gallente Prime, but that's the only connection I have with the planet. As long as our monuments and culture weren't being purged, I wouldn't care if Villore or Gallente Prime were owned by Caldari, Minmatar, or even Amarr. If I had some need to permanently move to those worlds, I would be willing to apply for residency, dual citizenship, or even full citizenship depending on the circumstances.

Look, I'm sincerely sorry the Caldari don't have their homeworld. I've always been in favor of returning Caldari Prime to the State, however only on the grounds that it's done peacefully and that Federal citizens are treated properly. It's simply not worth starting a war over if you ask me, even if I were in your shoes.

Well, I consider the question of Caldari Prime to be equitably and fairly settled by the current accomodation. How's that for maturity and being willing to move on? The only reason I'm in uniform and in the warzone now is because of the abuses being inflicted on Caldari worlds in Black Rise. As far as I'm concerend the whole issue could be settled by drawing a line that divided worlds with a historical Caldari presence from worlds with a historical Gallente presence.

When / If that happens, I'll be glad to stop killing Gallente and turn my attention to other enemies of the State. There are plenty - some of them joint enemies we'd be well advised to face together.

As for the actions of Caldari occupiers/liberators - it is WELL documented that the invasion was carried out with every attempt to preserve the lives of non-combatants. What happened during the occupation is partly the excesses of the Provists (And I've probably killed as many Provists as YOU have, during the unrest leading up to Heth's ouster) and partly the Gallente inability to follow orders during a state of emergency. Kill terrorists? Oh no! How could we? That's just MEAN.

And yes, I traded rounds with some of these 'patriots and freedom fighters' during visits to Home during the occupation. They were real - you could tell by the SNAP the rounds made as they passed overhead.



Your own government has admitted to dosing your soldiers with experimental combat drugs. Your own Navy has admitted to rogue squads of cloned troopers attacking Caldari citizens. An entire Kaalakiota mining colony was wiped out to a man. The Servant Sisters of Eve carried out an independent report on this matter - galnet it.

Seriously. This 'Our hearts are pure and our breath is minty fresh' crap is beneath you Fred. When you claim our policing actions on Caldari Prime were excessive and pretend your own faction's murders of civilians never happened, the stench is particularly cloying.




So, because you don't take your own heritage seriously nobody else is allowed to? You don't have to share the sentiment, but isn't it enough to know that Caldari take ours seriously, take our Home seriously and are willing to fight, kill and die in order to win the right of home-rule on Home?

Aren't you convinced how seriously we take it, yet? Don't you understand that we will do anything, stop at nothing? Do we actually have to doomsday Gallente Prime to drive it into your head? Can't you just let the current settlement stand? Give us rule over the 55% of the planet we control?

I hope a Caldari never has to say "Hakkinen K'len" again.




I understand the problems, inherent. I think the current solution is probably the best one, under the circumstances. Luminaire's sovreignty is unquestioned, you have part of the world for those who wish to be Federation citizens and WE have part of Home for those who wish to be Caldari citizens.

Can we keep that agreement?

Anyway, our discussion has ceased to be about Mantenault any longer and it is has become the tired and predictable sabre-rattling and chest-beating that is so tiresome to the majority. If you're truly interested in going to the mat with a Caldari until we both understand each other's position, please contact me privately. I'll be glad to tell you how we feel and why - perhaps you'll find it enlightening?

And he is certainly welcome to his own opinions. As to whether or not I personally prescribe to them in the prosecution of my duties and my tasks is another matter altogether.

My own opinion is that the future history between the State and Federation is to be written in blood. It will matter little what pointed words are to be said, only the pointed bullets that will be used.

welp...so much for cooled tensions. Oh well.

What makes you so sure of that ? Your specially trained Caldari marines ?




We do not mind that. We are rather confident in the superiority of our culture and military might if the Gallente state sees it worth the trouble.

As far as the policies of my own party have always put a strong emphasis on principles of nationality - which means the independence of the Caldari if so they wish - the smallest threat coming from them should be met with relentless military responses.

Of all the types of stupidity I have encountered the least attractive is aggressive stupidity. The big difference between us is that you are making commitments that would have to be met with the blood and bravery of others.

What, you thought WE had the only one?

Then I guess you must hate yourself as well.