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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#81 - 2013-10-16 11:45:36 UTC
A Blasty Incursus roam, by Zappity. We start the evening with a soothing farmer kill, just to warm up:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20720407

She was a bit grumpy about that but what do you expect when you are oblivious to d-scan? Next up was a much more interesting Slasher. I’m training my projectiles up at the moment to have a go in the Slasher. They rarely kill me in the Incursus but they can do it and they are often close fights.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20720406

This one was no different, with the other pilot’s comment in local being “gf. also, how?” I killed him the cycle before he capped me out. DPS ftw.

I was then chased out of a plex by a Firetail. She was most insistent on a fight, however, and followed me to a second plex and then to a gate. I obliged (why not?) and she died. But she was friendly about it so props to her.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20720403

And, finally, a Rifter to cool down after the evening’s exertions. She had watched me kill the Firetail and we chatted a bit after the fight. Her comment made me smile: “i knew i would lose but it was worth a try”. “always :)”, I responded. “want your loot?”

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#82 - 2013-10-17 09:03:56 UTC
I am looking for trouble in my Comet when I see a Tristan/Kestrel pair in a plex. They are both at zero on the beacon and I go for the Tristan’s throat. And then the dishonour drones swarm me.

ECM. Grrrr.

This is the first time I have died because of ECM. I tend to avoid Griffins et al but the dishonour drones are harder to predict. I completely understand the prevailing attitude about ECM. Yes, it is a completely valid strategy. Yes, it worked extremely well against my Comet. Yes, it is HUGELY frustrating. Just sitting there, pointed and waiting to die with absolutely nothing to do about it. And that is simply not good gameplay.

ECM just makes me not want to fight. Bad gameplay. So there. Rant over. I’ll get my Sensor Compensation skills trained up some time - maybe that will help, at least against ECM drones.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Eli Kzanti
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2013-10-17 11:03:17 UTC
Zappity wrote:
ECM just makes me not want to fight. Bad gameplay. So there. Rant over. I’ll get my Sensor Compensation skills trained up some time - maybe that will help, at least against ECM drones.

It doesnt do a great deal, I've found >_> but every little helps.

ECM drones (and ECM in general) are a bloody nightmare though, because you are then relying on sheer blind luck in order to actually be able to do anything at all in the fight. Bad stuff.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#84 - 2013-10-17 11:31:09 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Nice write up there.

As for the blog tbh once you set it up it just as easy as writing it here on the forums.

I'm on 'blogger' or 'blog spot' or whatever it is and was really easy to setup etc.


I found his blog. You guys should all check it out - much better than this rubbish!

http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/?m=1

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#85 - 2013-10-17 19:43:21 UTC
Hehe, this one is great fun! I jump into Siseide (yarr, here be pirates) and move to a safe. Whilst in warp I find a Rifter and a Punisher in separate plexes. I saw the same two ship names in another system a few minutes ago and I suspect they are together.

I am in a scram kite Incursus fit and inclined to go after the Punisher first.

[Incursus, 125mm]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Hobgoblin II x1

The Punisher does NOT want to play, at least not on his own. Who can blame him with the might of Zappity's Incursus to fear!

I tag along as he bounces between a few plexus, locking him but failing to land a scramble before he takes off for the next stop. The Rifter is also jumping about but I can't see any particular pattern.

I eventually catch the Punisher at the Infrastructure hub, whatever that it, and kill him much faster than I should with rails DPS.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20815056

Just as he pops, the Rifter lands next to me. Yes, they are together and since I have hit armour yet I lock, scram, web and start to shoot him. Then I notice that the Punisher pod has not warped away! Naturally, I am curious about this so I switch the guns to him to wake him up and he takes the shortcut home.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20815050

The deeps are soon back where they belong and the Rifter dies shortly after.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20815054

And so does his pod.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20815052

I feel a bit mean now! I start a convo and find that they are now dejected PvP aspirants. The ‘you shouldn’t ever get podded in lowsec’ lecture soon follows and I share some fits with them.

Catch you around, guys. You’ll kill me some day. Maybe.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#86 - 2013-10-18 22:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Chrstine Peeveepeeski just reminded me about the thread in local. So have another...

Well, that was embarrassing… I was killed by a nasty Condor earlier today. She should be ashamed, assaulting the noble Incursus hull with such kitescrubbery.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20815048

Then, a few hours later, I am again looking for trouble when I come across the same Condor running plexes! I’m gonna have him, I decide. I hop back a few jumps and get into my trusty Kitescrub Catcher:

[Incursus, Kitescrub Catcher]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Overdrive Injector System II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S

[empty rig slot]
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

Hobgoblin II x1

Being an Incursus, it has the advantage of not arousing the natural cowardly instincts of your typical kitescrubber. Completely useless against a normal afterburner fit unless you have extremely good reflexes, though.

I head back to the system where the noxious specimen was observed and, hooray, he is still there! I warp straight into the plex and, when I land, move away from the other ship at afterburner speed, as though aligning out.

He hit the MWD at about 40 km and started closing fast. I approached with a single overheated MWD cycle, landing a scram and web and managing to stay in range. The rest, as they say, is history.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20817384

So, where is the embarrassing part? Well, after gf’s in local the other pilot good naturedly mentioned that he might get his revenge in the future. “This WAS my revenge!”, I reply triumphantly. “You killed me earlier!” After which a private convo revealed that, actually, it was just a pilot with a similar name. Well, they started with the same initial.

Oops. What a noob. Props to Noxam Sherei for a gf and good attitude.

My real target was, unfortunately, offline at this point but I will get her eventually.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#87 - 2013-10-19 08:17:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
This is the “You shouldn’t lose your pod in lowsec” lecture so I don’t have to keep typing it when I pod noobs. Admittedly a little longer than the local version! This applies equally to highsec.

Lowsec does not have warp disruption bubbles. This means that you can always warp your pod away if it hasn’t been tackled. A ship’s scan resolution can be increased to the point where it can instantly lock even a pod and you will often find these in gate camps. The average PvP ship you will be fighting, however, will take at least a second to lock your pod. This means you can escape.

This is the important bit. When you know you are going to die, align your ship to a celestial or other warpable object. Then, spam the Warp To key until you have actually entered warp. As soon as your pod is ejected from your exploded ship you will enter warp. Hotkeys are your friend: Align is ‘A’ and Warp To is ‘W’ by default.

Edit: Rubicon frigates will warp significantly faster than pods. This means it is a good idea to choose a celestial that is difficult to identify (i.e. a moon) just by watching your capsule's path. Otherwise there may be a nasty surprise waiting for you at the end of your warp. I suggest making a ‘pod saver’ tab which contains a list of the celestial types that you choose plus all ships, just in case. Just click to it when you are dying. Thanks to Urkhan Law for the tip.

So click on a celestial, press A, then spam W until you enter warp.

And don’t loiter on the celestial since you may be followed. Bounce from it straight to a system safe. Don’t warp to a station or gate if you can avoid it since it is more likely a player will be there. And if you are anything like Zappity, you will be flashy-red killable!

The only thing that should kill you in this scenario is lag. I can’t do much about that.

Oh, another thing. Don’t just log off at a safe spot if you have a timer that will keep you stuck in space.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20830744 (sorry Enol Ankou, you were study material).

Otherwise, some meany might find you with combat scanner probes and pod you, just to find out what's inside. Ditto for stations.

Edit: Cearain added a comment about session timers. "After you lose your ship there is a session timer. So when you try to burn back to the gate/station but don't quite make it, you won't be able to jump/dock your pod either. You will have to select a different distant celestial and try to warp to it."

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Za'afiel
Imperceptible Bedevilment
#88 - 2013-10-19 10:17:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Za'afiel
I enjoy this, keep them coming.
I also have one question, was fighting in frigates your aware decision, and by aware I mean, do you have the chance of fighting in bigger ships and you simply decide not to, whatever the reason, or you plan to use bigger ships in the future?

Shoot them all! Be polite. o7

Shoot them all! Be polite.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#89 - 2013-10-19 18:36:28 UTC
Za'afiel wrote:
I enjoy this, keep them coming.
I also have one question, was fighting in frigates your aware decision, and by aware I mean, do you have the chance of fighting in bigger ships and you simply decide not to, whatever the reason, or you plan to use bigger ships in the future?

Shoot them all! Be polite. o7


Restricting myself to frigates is a conscious decision but will certainly not continue indefinitely. Zappity is a young character with 20m SP but about 8m of that is the skill changes that happened in Retribution (eg BC racials at 5).

I am still completing some pretty fundamental core skills and prefer to stay in smaller ships until a few more are done.

Also, I spent the last couple of years in BCs in my other characters and am still really enjoying the speed and agility of the smaller ships. There seems to be much greater tactical flexibility in small ships, and this (unfortunately) will probably only increase further with Rubicon warp speed changes.

Finally, I'm still learning something practically every time I fight. I only have 300-something kills and 150 losses, although admittedly these are mostly solo. Just being able to competently handle the rapid pace and extremely tight timing of a frigate fight is an achievement in itself!

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Za'afiel
Imperceptible Bedevilment
#90 - 2013-10-19 19:02:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Za'afiel
Zappity wrote:

Restricting myself to frigates is a conscious decision but will certainly not continue indefinitely. Zappity is a young character with 20m SP but about 8m of that is the skill changes that happened in Retribution (eg BC racials at 5).

I am still completing some pretty fundamental core skills and prefer to stay in smaller ships until a few more are done.

Also, I spent the last couple of years in BCs in my other characters and am still really enjoying the speed and agility of the smaller ships. There seems to be much greater tactical flexibility in small ships, and this (unfortunately) will probably only increase further with Rubicon warp speed changes.

Finally, I'm still learning something practically every time I fight. I only have 300-something kills and 150 losses, although admittedly these are mostly solo. Just being able to competently handle the rapid pace and extremely tight timing of a frigate fight is an achievement in itself!


Conscious was the word that i was looking for while writing my previous post...nvm...
I'm asking because the frig fights are, as you said, very rapid. I plan to chceck out some solo low sec flying myself but I do not feel good in frigs... ultimately i would want to fly cruise sized ships and BC, and I wonder, if you had an opportunity to start there (ISK and SP not an issue) would you still want to go thru the frigs stage? Cause everybody says you should start there, that it gives you a lot pvp skill. I have like 20 fitted frigs in my hangar, but my heart tells me... Take the Rax goddamit!
Would you or anybody reading this say that frig stage is a must in a solo pvper career? I guess I already know the anwer but still...is it? A must?

Shoot them all! Be polite.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#91 - 2013-10-19 19:40:18 UTC
Za'afiel wrote:
Zappity wrote:

Restricting myself to frigates is a conscious decision but will certainly not continue indefinitely. Zappity is a young character with 20m SP but about 8m of that is the skill changes that happened in Retribution (eg BC racials at 5).

I am still completing some pretty fundamental core skills and prefer to stay in smaller ships until a few more are done.

Also, I spent the last couple of years in BCs in my other characters and am still really enjoying the speed and agility of the smaller ships. There seems to be much greater tactical flexibility in small ships, and this (unfortunately) will probably only increase further with Rubicon warp speed changes.

Finally, I'm still learning something practically every time I fight. I only have 300-something kills and 150 losses, although admittedly these are mostly solo. Just being able to competently handle the rapid pace and extremely tight timing of a frigate fight is an achievement in itself!


Conscious was the word that i was looking for while writing my previous post...nvm...
I'm asking because the frig fights are, as you said, very rapid. I plan to chceck out some solo low sec flying myself but I do not feel good in frigs... ultimately i would want to fly cruise sized ships and BC, and I wonder, if you had an opportunity to start there (ISK and SP not an issue) would you still want to go thru the frigs stage? Cause everybody says you should start there, that it gives you a lot pvp skill. I have like 20 fitted frigs in my hangar, but my heart tells me... Take the Rax goddamit!
Would you or anybody reading this say that frig stage is a must in a solo pvper career? I guess I already know the anwer but still...is it? A must?


I hope some more experienced people will chip in after this but I would say do both. If ISK is no object then there's no real reason not to try everything unless you care about your killboard loss figures.

I was BAD when I started. Continually forgetting to activate modules (like guns!), going in the wrong direction, always forgetting drones etc. You would have a little more time to think in a cruiser but if you are fighting in FW regions against predominantly smaller ships you will not be able to dictate the terms of the engagement as well.

The way I see it is if you can master frigates you can pretty much do OK in anything. But if ISK is no object just have fun with them all.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#92 - 2013-10-20 09:49:05 UTC
Go buy 20 Rifters/Atrons/Punishers/whatever. EVERYTHING is dangerous now. Even the Kestrel is dangerous now.....

Fit them all up the same way, use cheap t1 gear/ammo/rigs, and then go lose them in lowsec.

You run out, go buy another 20 frigs, etc etc.

You will quickly get the hang of it; its pretty easy.

And once you get used to frigs, switch up to destroyers (they are very deadly now); I recommend the Talwar or Coercer, but even the Cormorant is freaking evil if flown properly, rinse recycle repeat.

And so forth.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Shizuka Mena
Bloodfriends
#93 - 2013-10-20 11:32:25 UTC
I think the size of ship you learn in has more to do with the space you are flying in and the related meta game.

In FW Frigates are good at least as much due to ability to enter plexes and people aren't afraid to fight you. If you take out a cruiser then you're much more likely to either scare off your prey. Of course you could instead try and fight the local pirates in which case a cruiser might turn out to be a good choice.

I suspect (but don't know, haven't flown there in ages) in Null that cruisers are probably a better choice.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#94 - 2013-10-21 04:38:10 UTC
Of course, I couldn’t just put the Kitescrub Catcher away after that victory (#86) so I decide to fly it until I lose it. I dock up, repair the extensive heat and take off again. And you’ll never guess what I find! Another Condor! Anyone would think that FW regions were infested with them.

I warp to the plex and he is sitting 40 km off the gate. Rinse and repeat as before with this one even easier to catch. He also dies a little faster since I have Null loaded this time instead of CNAM. I find it best to disable the MWD after the first cycle and do the final approach without any prop mod to avoid an overshoot. The Null allows you to apply damage the whole way in and still does pretty good DPS up close if you have good tracking skills.

I am watching dscan, however, and I see a Stabber warping in. Uh oh, I don’t have the tank to withstand a Stabber. Bugger it, I’m going to finish the kitescrubber off anyway, just to teach him a lesson. Which I do. Ha!

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20817383

The Stabber long points me just as the Condor pod warps away. He is still quite distant, though, and I align to a celestial away from the Stabber (yes, I’m afraid it was the sun - that solid circle is so alluring). Another overheated MWD cycle sees me clear of the point and warping to freedom!

Next up is an Atron farmer who decides to stay and fight until he hits structure. He then warps away with the aid of stabs. The irony is that, had he fit for DPS, he would likely have killed me. I told him as much before taking off to find the next encounter. They do some nasty damage those Atrons (this one ALMOST killed me a little earlier - my poor ship was on fire thanks to Crake Gaterau again).

The next encounter doesn’t take long to find and comes in the form of, wait for it, another Condor. This time I forget to disengage my MWD after the first cycle and overshoot despite landing the initial scram. Unfortunately, a couple of other frigates have appeared on dscan so I scarper.

"Why run, *****!", came the unimaginative and inaccurate taunt. "It's a tarp!", I reply. Actually, to be fair the taunt was about as imaginative as the trap, with the other frigates sitting in a safe close to the plex. I thought I would have time to kill the Condor before the others appeared. And I probably would have if I hadn't forgotten the MWD. Sigh.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#95 - 2013-10-22 05:29:07 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Nice write up there.

As for the blog tbh once you set it up it just as easy as writing it here on the forums.

I'm on 'blogger' or 'blog spot' or whatever it is and was really easy to setup etc.


I found his blog. You guys should all check it out - much better than this rubbish!

http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/?m=1


LOL yeah right! Damn I so need to write more stuffz!!

So Zappity you gonna link your blog or what?

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#96 - 2013-10-22 06:45:26 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Zappity wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Nice write up there.

As for the blog tbh once you set it up it just as easy as writing it here on the forums.

I'm on 'blogger' or 'blog spot' or whatever it is and was really easy to setup etc.


I found his blog. You guys should all check it out - much better than this rubbish!

http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/?m=1


LOL yeah right! Damn I so need to write more stuffz!!

So Zappity you gonna link your blog or what?

When I have time to copy some stuff over. Don't get too excited - it will pretty much just be this content to start with anyway. And I'm travelling this week, unfortunately. Although overnight in Echuca on the river which is quite nice.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#97 - 2013-10-22 06:45:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
I warm up my Blasty Incursus with a Breacher fight. He is a good pilot and it is pretty close, requiring good manual range control and overheating at the right times, just like he is doing. Still, I manage not to stuff up too badly and come out of it with a smoking hull but no burnt out modules.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20827839

I travel back to Eszur where I see a small T.R.I.A.D gang has invaded my nice home system. How rude. Hookbill, Kestrel, Scythe, Slasher, Slasher and three plexes. Hmm. I want to kill at least one of them.

Actually, I'd like to kill them all (not that I have anything against T.R.I.A.D in particular, it's just lowsec). I think I need to find a good small gang corp for these sort of occasions.

Anyway, they are in the same plex but immediately start spreading out until there are only two Slashers left. Sounds good to me! And by the time I arrive it is only one Slasher.

I load Null on the way in and tackle the remaining Slasher who is waiting only a few km off the beacon.

(Start the timer)

Approach
Lock
Overheated afterburner
Drone (yes, I remembered him!)
Scram/guns
Web
This guy is slow; I should have loaded CNAM
Dscan (Condor - did I miss him or is he a neut?)
Um, where did the Slasher go? Oh, he is a wreck!

(+19 seconds)

Try to lock the pod
Drone recovered
Loot
gf in local
Belatedly disengage afterburner and heat (well I have to make at least one mistake, don't I?)
Align
Dscan, Condor
Warp

(+38 seconds)

Stealth gank!

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20827838

But he was a noob so it doesn't really count. Still, they didn't respond in time and foolishly left a noob alone with Zappity on the prowl!

A pity I didn't get his pod. I could have used the lecture.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#98 - 2013-10-22 06:49:01 UTC
A lot of people ask me why I chose a female character. The answer is that all my other characters had been male when I made Zappity. Also, my wife wanted to do the makeup. So there.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
#99 - 2013-10-22 19:05:29 UTC
Zappity wrote:
This is the “You shouldn’t lose your pod in lowsec” lecture so I don’t have to keep typing it when I pod noobs.

Cool thread Zappity :)
After next patch, frigs will warp faster than pods, so don't forget to warp to a moon instead of the usual celestial :)
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#100 - 2013-10-22 19:48:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Urkhan Law wrote:
Zappity wrote:
This is the “You shouldn’t lose your pod in lowsec” lecture so I don’t have to keep typing it when I pod noobs.

Cool thread Zappity :)
After next patch, frigs will warp faster than pods, so don't forget to warp to a moon instead of the usual celestial :)

Very good reminder. I have been meaning to update my 'pod saver' tab around this change but haven't got around to it yet.

I have edited the lecture to account for this - thanks Urkhan.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.