Crime & Punishment

If it's such a small amount of isk, why put the effort into making changes to the existing system?

I lose ~20m every time I attempt a gank since I've used T2 fit Omens. Losing ~22m isnt going to deter me. So who cares? Why waste dev hours on it?

Any way, i wonder why no one at ccp ever posts in these types of threads...

Meh, you only do that once. :)
Like I once, could barely fly a BC, started repping a NPC in a mission.



*Boom!*

Because most hard-core players are ignorant about what makes the game a success and don't realise that what they want, to suit their hard-core play style, will often kill the game. The game exists because of casual players, as they make up the majority of the player base. This means that the hard-core players get to play their game off of the backs of the carebears mining and running missions in high-sec. Oooh, contentious statement! A game with nobody in high sec and 20,000 subscribers would be dull and not financially viable. It's a bit like pirates telling carebears they are stupid and should be pirates, as its a better game. Dumb thing to aspire to, because if everyone was a pirate, nobody would be a pirate. Be careful what you wish for, as you might get it.

This attitude is common for all MMOs that have a PvP element and these are generally the players with the louder voice and larger ego, as they try to 'win' at the game or are using it to make money in RL, whereas most casual players have other things in their life. This sums it up quite nicely: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/online_gaming

when you are standing in the middle of a field with no place to run, a troop of boy scouts would be impossible to avoid

This game is not like other MMO's. From its very conception it has been fueled by hardcore players willing to do whatever it took to get the job done. Today's mass of lazy pubbies has taken so much out of this game by simplifiying it and dumbing it down that all we are left with is 3 or 4 blocks in nullsec all staring at each other fapping because nobody has the motivation or is hardcore enough to lead a charge. Highsec in and of itself are so ******* lazy they cant even fly from point A to point B without autopilot and ***** about getting ganked.

The rich history of this game was created by the hardcore. This game belongs to the hardcore. Without the hardcore everything stops and stalemates and THAT's when EVE will die. You can have all the highsec pubbies paying all the subscriptions you want to but without player driven conflict and storyline everybody gets bored and leaves.

And you guys wonder why bittervets are so pissed. This game is turning vanilla as ****.

**** the fit, why are you sittign there when a brutix enters the belt in the first place? Stay aligned and once he lands on grid gtfo.

I always laugh when I see these threads. 99% of the time I suicide gank I forget to insure my ship, even so making a profit isn't an issue.

Go ahead and remove it, won't change suicide ganking much no matter how much you idiots wish it would.

Well, the people actually doing the ganking aren't necessarily the ones reaping the profits, but there are boatloads of profits being made. "Goonswarm shrugged" has resulted in roughly 100 billion per day in profits for those who have oxygen isotopes stockpiled. Presumably that is mostly the goonswarm leadership that ordered the campaign. So there is tons of profit in it, it's just that the foot soldiers aren't getting a cut of those profits.

But, regardless, you're right that people would still do it even if it were rebalanced. That's great. The goal of rebalancing it shouldn't be to make it so nobody ever does that career, it should just be so that it the challenge and the rewards are in roughly the same balance as anything else, and so that the targets have a reasonable way to counter it. If CCP rebalances a particular ship that they think has become overpowered, their goal isn't to stop people from flying that ship, it's just to keep it in balance with the other ships. Same deal with this.

I don't really know if ganking needs rebalancing or not. I haven't done it and don't have a good sense of how easy it is. It certainly seems pretty easy, and given the huge rewards, that makes me suspect that it is out of balance. But, I don't really know that. Maybe it's a lot harder than it sounds.

Or, on the flip side, maybe it is mining that is out of balance. Maybe the risk you need to accept and the knowledge of the game required to minimize that risk has gotten too high relative to the rewards. Keep in mind that the rewards are absurdly low. If that's the case, then CCP should be figuring out how to rebalance mining to make it a viable option at least for newer players earning up enough ISK for their first battleship.

Either way though, I think CCP should take a look at it. If they do rebalance it and people still want to do it, by all means, have at it.