EVE General Discussion

You mentioned balance, I predict an Infinity and Byerley double whammy in the near future. You should feel bad for subjecting other forum goers to this horror.

The amount of isk they lose is of no consequence. It costs each player 2 million isk and very little training time and no effort to execute the gank, to remove 6 billion isk from another player who potentially spent months of generating income and months of training to get into that ship.

Now that's not imbalanced if its in low or null but in high sec that causes a serious problem, the game becomes a turkey shoot with serious consequences for the victim and no consequences for the low brows.

An MMO should be balanced, for each action you should be entitled to a chance of some profit, some potential loss and required to put in some effort.

Why (and how) does the balance suddenly change just because it's in highsec?

And again, just because the victims choose to waive the consequences doesn't mean that they don't exist.

This is incorrect. Isk takes time to generate, it also has an out of game monetary value (plex) therefore it is not just pixels.

…and a gank takes time to generate as well. And no, ISK does not have a monetary value unless you break the EULA.
It is still just pixels.

Don't fly a Six Billion ISK Fit Ship then without excepting that risk. Bling is a risk factor. Unless you are talking about that Jump Freighter kill you posted because why even travel gates with those things when they are for jumping.

If the cost of the gank is two low CCP will make adjustments as they always have before to any skewed mechanic, just like they did with insurance removal and proc/mack/indy balance.

Not really, the numerous and obscenely rich Goons already tried to "Burn Jita" Been to Jita? It's doin just fine.

it went away?

So what? Jump Freighters are ungankable, you just bring the goods to them in regular Freighters, take them on a clean scouted undock and jump.

Remember when you were going on about effort.

If you like, I can point out the obvious self-contradiction -

Dave and a few other commonly argue that the skewed ganker/gankee balance isn't a problem because the activity isn't rampant - the reason for that is obviously motivation since the cost, investment, and return are about as attractive as it gets.

If you turn around and say that nothing should be balanced around motive, it follows that highsec ganking should be brought in line with everything else.

In reality, motive obviously does have an impact on balance since the dastardliness of the activity generally scales with the reward: ie scamming, awox'ing, ganking.

You could argue that represents player controlled balance: space morally degenerate activities have less competition -> more reward, and you'd have a decent point. No ones really argued the distinction between CCP imposed and naturally evolving balance though; it gets complicated.



I see you're still trying to deny what everyone can look up on killboards?

A jump freighter is capable of and so intended by CCP to be able to use gates. A jump freighter pilot should be relatively safe in highsec when using gates. Currently they are not, even when empty.