EVE General Discussion

I call them cowards, because they act like cowards.

Adress my words.

They do hide in station until needed.
They rely on neutral alts, so they can sit in station.

Means they don't want to be outside.



Cowards.


(please both of you note that i am never saying that you're doing "easy pvp" or "can't pvp" or anything, at all)

I'm not talking pirates.
I'm talking gankers.

Pirates stick to lowsec, afaik.

Why?

No. That is not a consequence of negative sec status.

Meanwhile, the actual consequences of negative sec status is that navies hunt you and you're a free kill for anyone who chooses to come after you. The only reason people incorrectly claim that there are no consequences is because they choose to provide none. The solution to that problem is for them to stop doing both.

Yeah… ehm… so you don't think it had something to do with the fact that it wasn't actually suicide ganking, then?

Has any of you actually tried to catch a Ganker? Seriously...

I agree that Gankers are the most craven of cowards... Just how many red flashy's do you see flying about on a daily basis? Hmm?

They might have a negative status, but until they actually gank someone they are untouchable unless you gank them which draws Concord upon you. Once they are Concorded, they buzz off in their Pod, bounce around in Safes until the GCC expires and they dock back up...

To catch them, you have to be in the right spot and be fast enough to lock & long point them before they escape. They don't go near Stations or Gates until the GCC expires, at which point they are once again protected by Concord.

I would dearly love to learn just how to do what everybody is suggesting...
I would outfit a ship and hunt Gankers in Highsec in a heartbeat, as long as I can do it as a "White Knight" and not lose security status in the process.

Teach me how... somebody... ANYBODY....
If not then SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When they show up, you shoot them. Since they are outlaws, you can do this without CONCORD showing up.

If they are the type to use safes, you probe out those safes and wait for them after a gank; most of them are more likely to just dock up (since that's hellalot easier and safer), in which case you have to stalk the stations and hope for the best.

I would also suggest that you learn how crimewatch and security status works, since there seems to be some gaps in that area.

I can.

This works against any catalyst fleet, unless they attack *you*.


Did this at the last caldari ice interdiction.

You use a minmatar ship with lots of turrets and rather high scanres, like a hurricane.
You fit Artillery and sit in around optimal.

650mm > 720mm, because we can use the higher RoF to our advantage.


You *ungroup* your turrets, spreading them from F1-F6.


Gankers are incoming. warping onto their target.


You start locking several of them at once,
as soon as they get out of warp.


case a)
they aren't outlaws, so you have to wait until the first shoots. With yellow safety,
you can just spam F1-F6, while switching target (or not), until somebody goes GCC.

How to properly spread turrets onto the enemy is explained below.



case b)
they are all outlaws. Grandiose!

At the first lock you press F1, wait half a second-ish press F2.
You switch to the next locked target, (which just finished locking)
and press F3, wait half a second-ish, press F4 ...
... switch to the next target, etc.

The first catalyst probably dies around when you hit F4.

You switch to the next target for F5 and F6.

If you run out of targets, keep locking !

F1 and F2 are free again (the first catalyst that died)
and can be applied to a new target,
while F3 and F4 are ending their cycle after popping their target.

This is kind of confusing to explain, but i'm sure you'll get the hang out of it.


Bonuspoints if you manage even intervals. ^_^


Edit: the "half a second-ish" is actually longer.
the more you can spread out the activations of your turrets, (evenly through all of them)
the more likely you'll have a free turret ready.

Use 650mm. Their RoF is awesome. :)


Also *very* helpful in PvE.

I'd explain it by saying that it's a lot like mass-salvaging in a Noctis. The cadence of “pull, salvage, switch, pull, salvage, switch, … ooh, first module is free again” is very similar.

In other news there is a f**k load of consequences when you overload your Freighter.

If folks didn't they wouldn't be gankers they'd just be annoying tourists.

Thank you so much Solstice, your the man.
I can't use Artty without a lot of training, but the new improved Med Rails look promising... I might try that with a Sebo Ferox, or maybe a Sniper Naga with a remote sensor alt in a Retriever.

…also, I highly recommend assigning, learning, and training to use keyboard shortcuts to move up and down in the overview, and left and right across your target list. Doing it that way makes the micro-managing of locking up and switching between targets a whole lot easier (and faster).