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Is the collector's edition a failure?
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#21 - 2013-09-06 15:16:39 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
Jack Morrison wrote:
I think it is a failure, but only because the pricetag and content is not balanced. You get stuff worth about 30-40 bucks wrapped up in a mystery code for a pricetag of 150 bucks Roll



And stuff a lot of Eve players don't even want, i.e. the DUST stuff.


I'd want if it I could use it.

/Fixed.

They should ship a ps3 with the ce Twisted.

Remove standings and insurance.
Lilliana Stelles
#22 - 2013-09-06 15:26:29 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:

/Fixed.

They should ship a ps3 with the ce Twisted.



I have a PS3.
It's an old 30gig model.
I had linux on it so I lost half of my hard drive space to that.
I'm left without enough room to play dust even if I wanted to.

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Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-09-06 15:45:45 UTC
Kessel Rock wrote:
the fact that every time they patch the game some people have to completely reinstall the game is a fail. i havent been able to play in about 3 days because i cant get the game to ******* patch.

Yes the collectors edition of a game that has been out for years is a fail.


10 yr anniversery thing isn't it? so not quite the fail.. the only failure is your comp..
Mycool Jahksn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-09-06 15:59:26 UTC
It's garbage. The only think truly epic about it that gives you something ingame that's EVE related is the golden pod.

The rest is rl stuff that is nice but IMO a collectors edition should give you a ton of epic ingame stuff and not a ton of Dust stuff that will only collect Dust in a corner of your desktop.

I've said it before, include some epic Battleship or some other epic item and we can start talking.

Celebrating a 10 year anniversary by doing this: "Heyyy buy this Collectors Edition and get a skinned frigate and a golden pod! Just 150 Euro!" is just epic fail if anything.

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Lilliana Stelles
#25 - 2013-09-06 16:01:05 UTC
I *almost* feel like the gnosis BPC should be a BPO.
But then it'd just be straight pay-to-win when people start mass-producing ME 100 gnosium that no one else can even make.

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Xasnevian
sadfadsfadsadsf
#26 - 2013-09-06 17:01:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Xasnevian
On Topic:

What do you consider a failure, or success for that matter? Is it a failure if CCP doesn't make a profit from it? Is it a failure if you don't like it? Imo, CCP has something to celebrate and they choose to offer everybody a certain item, that you may or may not buy, as a way of celebration. Regardless of how many people decide to join them in this celebration, a lot of people are now aware of the fact that EVE is 10 years old and therefore, I think the Collector's Edition is a success.


Off Topic:

Haters gonna hate!

Jack Morrison wrote:
I think it is a failure, but only because the pricetag and content is not balanced.

I Love Boobies wrote:
And stuff a lot of Eve players don't even want, i.e. the DUST stuff.

Jack Morrison wrote:
I can play that game too, look:
'blabla'

Kessel Rock wrote:
Yes the collectors edition of a game that has been out for years is a fail.

Mycool Jahksn wrote:
It's garbage.


Really, if you don't like it, don't buy it.

By making posts like these, you show that you envy the people who do actually buy the thing and that you are ButtHurt about it. Somehow, you try to make yourself feel better by convincing each other that this super awesome Collector's Edition that you're not getting actually isn't worth it for you, even though it's somehow worth your time to make stupid rant posts about it.
Plato Idari
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#27 - 2013-09-06 17:11:04 UTC
Its not a failure, its just overpriced.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#28 - 2013-09-06 18:13:08 UTC
I'd prefer paid EVE expansion (for $49) - so I wouldn't have to pledge $65 to Star Citizen in desperate attempt to get any new spaceship content in next couple years.
Tron 3K
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#29 - 2013-09-06 18:41:59 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
I'd prefer paid EVE expansion (for $49) - so I wouldn't have to pledge $65 to Star Citizen in desperate attempt to get any new spaceship content in next couple years.

No one forced you to put money into a game that may or may not actually be released.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-09-06 19:04:10 UTC
I got it for the rifter, the rest is just icing.

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Dave Stark
#31 - 2013-09-06 19:13:54 UTC
Xasnevian wrote:
Really, if you don't like it, don't buy it.

By making posts like these, you show that you envy the people who do actually buy the thing and that you are ButtHurt about it. Somehow, you try to make yourself feel better by convincing each other that this super awesome Collector's Edition that you're not getting actually isn't worth it for you, even though it's somehow worth your time to make stupid rant posts about it.


we won't, however that doesn't change the fact that many people want an EVE CE, except they don't want a box of stuff they can't/won't use because it's simply not EVE stuff.

posts like these are the feedback CCP want, and yes they do want feedback or they wouldn't have sent people an email linking to a survey specifically about the CE.
the very fact is; to an eve player the collectors edition isn't worth it. we don't want an unrelated board game, we don't want dropsuits for a game we don't play; we want eve content. I'd gladly pay the price for the CE if we replaced the non eve content with eve content, or removed the non eve content and adjusted the price accordingly.

calling it an EVE CE when half of the content isn't eve related is a bit misleading, to be honest.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#32 - 2013-09-06 19:15:08 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:

/Fixed.

They should ship a ps3 with the ce Twisted.



I have a PS3.
It's an old 30gig model.
I had linux on it so I lost half of my hard drive space to that.
I'm left without enough room to play dust even if I wanted to.

You do realize that it's stupid easy to upgrade the harddrive in those systems?

All versions take laptop SATA Drives. My PS3 Has a 750GB HDD inside it.

My old Fat PS3 has a 500GB...

Try another excuse...

...
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-09-06 19:16:23 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Xasnevian wrote:
Really, if you don't like it, don't buy it.

By making posts like these, you show that you envy the people who do actually buy the thing and that you are ButtHurt about it. Somehow, you try to make yourself feel better by convincing each other that this super awesome Collector's Edition that you're not getting actually isn't worth it for you, even though it's somehow worth your time to make stupid rant posts about it.


we won't, however that doesn't change the fact that many people want an EVE CE, except they don't want a box of stuff they can't/won't use because it's simply not EVE stuff.

posts like these are the feedback CCP want, and yes they do want feedback or they wouldn't have sent people an email linking to a survey specifically about the CE.
the very fact is; to an eve player the collectors edition isn't worth it. we don't want an unrelated board game, we don't want dropsuits for a game we don't play; we want eve content. I'd gladly pay the price for the CE if we replaced the non eve content with eve content, or removed the non eve content and adjusted the price accordingly.

calling it an EVE CE when half of the content isn't eve related is a bit misleading, to be honest.

The board game is actually a good idea.. especially to those that have been around the 10 years and know about the history how the game was started by that game.. Kind of cool to me..
Dave Stark
#34 - 2013-09-06 19:17:49 UTC
Tron 3K wrote:
The board game is actually a good idea.. especially to those that have been around the 10 years and know about the history how the game was started by that game.. Kind of cool to me..


It's irrelevant if the game is the best board game since chess. when i'm buying an EVE CE, i want EVE content.

the board game isn't EVE content.
Rhapsodae
Bedlam Escapees
Apocalypse Now.
#35 - 2013-09-06 19:40:18 UTC
its ruddy bull that the promocodes are now for sale. I mena how more F2P-ish can u be. "here we have the collectors edition with special stuff and blablabla-headinass-blabla, oh but **** it, buy the digital stuff for erm... *finger in mouth* epic pauze... 50 bucks"


It's not special to fly a nefantar or **** now, regardles getting it form the market, you can now BUY it regularly.

I wanna buy 3 drakes too. Oh and some exotic dancers, wityh extra DLC for colored bikini's and click on STD's
Xasnevian
sadfadsfadsadsf
#36 - 2013-09-07 06:12:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Xasnevian
Dave Stark wrote:
the very fact is; to an eve player the collectors edition isn't worth it.


Speak for yourself. The CE obviously isn't worth it for YOU, but that doesn't mean that others don't like its contents. That you have certain expectations when you think of a "Collector's Edition" is something you created yourself. Obviously, your expectations haven't been met and therefore you think it isn't worth it.

And it's misleading to call it an EVE CE? I think it's perfectly clear what you get when ordering the thing when you read the description and look at the pictures. Again, you mislead yourself by assuming things when hearing the word "Collector's Edition".

If you don't like it, don't buy it (as you said you will do). But why don't you leave it at that? Why make all these posts telling other people that they shouldn't like it either? The CE isn't worth your money, but its definitely worth your time!
Motorbit
Moira.
#37 - 2013-09-07 06:19:10 UTC
i dont like buying ingame currency with cash, or ingame advantages with cash. i would love to get stuff like limited posters, artwork or shipmoddels.
ce was not made for me, it seems.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-09-07 07:02:20 UTC
Xasnevian wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
the very fact is; to an eve player the collectors edition isn't worth it.


Speak for yourself. The CE obviously isn't worth it for YOU, but that doesn't mean that others don't like its contents. That you have certain expectations when you think of a "Collector's Edition" is something you created yourself. Obviously, your expectations haven't been met and therefore you think it isn't worth it.

And it's misleading to call it an EVE CE? I think it's perfectly clear what you get when ordering the thing when you read the description and look at the pictures. Again, you mislead yourself by assuming things when hearing the word "Collector's Edition".

If you don't like it, don't buy it (as you said you will do). But why don't you leave it at that? Why make all these posts telling other people that they shouldn't like it either? The CE isn't worth your money, but its definitely worth your time!


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Josef Djugashvilis
#39 - 2013-09-07 07:22:20 UTC
I simply cannot see the problem with the logic behind the the marketing strategy of the Collector's Edition.

It seems perfectly sensible to me that CCP should want and expect many folk to pay for stuff used in a game, (DUST) they do not play.

Stand alone Eve Collector's Edition would do well. I would buy it.

Stand alone DUST Collector's Edition would do well. Others would buy it.

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Kyra Quinn
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-09-07 07:25:49 UTC
I have been contemplating it but the content simply doesn't justify the price. I have no problems with the cost as such so I'd rather see more actual content than a lowered price tag. As it stands it's just not worth to me, which is fine of course as it doesn't have to appeal to every one, but I do feel it's a missed opportunity.
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