Ships & Modules

I see that the Occator is pretty tough. If I put additional defensive modules on it including rigs is it more or less gank proof ? My goal here is to transport 1-2 billion in stuff over 30 hops unattended through empire.

My other idea would be to use a Raven or some other battleship (cargo is not that bulky). Would that be a better idea?

The cloak is not useful here. I want to move the stuff on autopilot. Cloak gets dropped whenever you go through a gate (or come close to another ship going through the same gate).

The scan proof aspect of the Viator is potentially useful.

In reality though how are they going to gank a heavily tanked Occator? Won't that take like 20 catalysts or something like that ?

Unattended is a game breaker no matter the ship or fit.

That aside, the idea is not to carry more value than the cost of suicide ganking you. A freighter (such as an Obelisk) is generally OK up to 1 billion.

I think your best bet is to contract red frog or pushx

yes, it's totally gank proof. go nuts.

i used to run high-value cargo in frigate. it doesn't have to be covop, but unattended is asking for trouble.

anything that doesn't fit in frigate, use blockade runner.

if really large cargo, or when you eventually get bored, hire Red Frog.

If you're APing in a ship that's scan proof (are they actually scan proof? or is the OP talking cans inside plastic wraps?), you're going to have a bad day, somebody WILL gank you just to see if there's anything shiny inside.

**My question about scan proof is answered below

You are a sad, strange little man and you have my pity. Farewell.

This hi-sec EMPIRE we are talking about here. I am not planning to autopilot through Fountain, ok?

Not sure if troll or just ignorant...

If you're intending to move 1-2 billion ISK on autopilot then you are looking for luck alone...

As other posters have stated (and you've dismissed their responses, in quite an insulting manner too) the expected payout is more than sufficient to cover the losses incured.

Even if it means following you for several jumps while calculating the best way of killing you a payout of 0.5 - 1 billion (let's say) split between a couple of gank pilots and a hauler is a significantly higher ISK/hour than can be expected for anything else in the area.

As has already been stated, the unscannable (and it is unscannable, except by NPCs) cargo of a blockade runner on autopilot is not a protection but an invitation to gank the ship simply because it might contain Estamel's Invuln...


Your only option beyond sheer, dumb luck is to ensure that you are a less juicy target than those around you - noone will gank a Deep Space Transport when they can gank T1 Haulers for the same payout for example.

In reality however you are far better off either taking the time to make your run manually, cloaking or MWDing (as appropriate for the chosen ship) to minimise your risks, scouting the ganking hotspots on the way...etc. Or paying one of the courier companies to make the shipment on your behalf. Or (if you insist on an autopilot Occator) making several round trips (10-20+) carrying a fraction of the full cargo value each time and keeping your total cargo value below about 100mil (IIRC the approximate cut-off point for a heavy buffer Occator).

Autopiloting a high value cargo through highsec will get you killed just as surely as doing it through lowsec and nullsec.