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Show Info -- why did you align stats all the way right??
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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-09-05 08:16:59 UTC
Puissant wrote:
r-click -> Show Info, EVE Online.

---------------------------------------------------------
| Description | Attributes | Prerequites |
EVE is ███████████████████████████████████████████████████████ the best 4x MMO around.
EVE will never win a ████████████████████████████████████████ "best looking game UI evah!" award.
This is ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ given.


These kind of changes make me think that the DEVs don't actually play the game they code. Btw - I originally tried spacing this out manually, but the DEV in charge of the forum code removes all of those nasty "extra spaces" to prevent the kind of formating I had to duplicate above.

I wonder why they would do that?


haha.. had to laugh at that since it is spot on.

The complaints were ignored... it is a pretty terrible change though if you really want to be honest.

However like most things humans are thank fully adaptable... even if it is terrible.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-09-05 08:25:00 UTC
What is the actual reason for the change? Were there people complaining that they get nauseas from the left hand aligned graphics?

I disagree
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-09-05 08:50:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucretia DeWinter
Hey!!! Team Pony Express! Yeah, you...

Whilst I can appreciate the spirit behind this change in making things a bit more uniform and more readable than before, the execution and end result has not turned out as desired.

...................................................................................................Now reading things is
...........................................................................................................more difficult and requires
.................................................................................................................more focus shifting,
which induces eye strain.
And it looks bad.
Like seriously bad.

Like I'd be ashamed to call myself a UI Designer
if that abomination was within 5000 light years
of work I had any input on.


With the forced right justify that things seem to have, it makes windows look like they were added by a person with no concept of visual ergonomics or artistry.

Please do consider revising or reversing this change. the individual cells look better and are more legible, but the alignment, scalability and column spacings just make it look weird and hard to read.

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(and that's what it feels like to read one Show Info window now. Please re-read this post 500 times to simulate an EVE game session. You may want to have somebody whack you with a tea tray when you're not expecting it and mug you for all you Kronas and hakarl for authenticity.)
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#24 - 2013-09-05 10:10:16 UTC
Puissant wrote:
No one can look at a two column excell spreadsheet and see variables on the left side of the screen, values on the far right and think that "Yeah.. this looks good." No one.

I can honestly say this is the game breaking mechanic that made me stop recommending EVE to my friends. For nearly 10 years I've encouraged people to give EVE a try. I wouldn't want new pilots seeing the GUI with show info as it currently stands -- it will send them screaming back to the MMO the pulled themselves out of.

*sigh*

So... you can't just make the window smaller? You have to have a full screen window for your show info panel?

I don't think it's gamebreaking that you can't read from left to right, not to mention there's key information of the fields value that differentiate them. "Meta Level" is unlikely to be "20%" for example.

I like the new windows, When you compact them down, they look much nicer.

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Praetor Meles
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#25 - 2013-09-05 10:43:41 UTC
Puissant wrote:
I can honestly say this is the game breaking mechanic


Your stuff. I can have?

[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-09-05 11:04:01 UTC
...what.

look left, see variable, look right, see value. Where's the problem? Why is this even a problem?

I mean, I'm not entirely sure why it was felt to be a necessary part of the patch, but are people genuinely angry about this, or are you all just absconding with the urine?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-09-05 11:19:42 UTC
I'm not usually one to complain about UI stuff (been around too long I guess) because normally people get used to it and then end up shuddering at the thought of reverting to the ways of the good ole days. Who in their right mind would want the old font back (ok, ok - not the old old font, the one we had before the current one)?

In this case, though - +1 for the OP. The actual info in the show info windows is too far away from their variables to be readily recognizable. Fix pl0x. Not even asking for a reversion, just an improvement.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#28 - 2013-09-05 11:41:07 UTC
Puissant wrote:
I can honestly say this is the game breaking mechanic.


Alignment of a single data column is a game breaking mechanic to you? Big smile Ha ha ha that's fresh!
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#29 - 2013-09-05 11:54:06 UTC
Puissant wrote:
r-click -> Show Info, EVE Online.

---------------------------------------------------------
| Description | Attributes | Prerequites |
EVE is ███████████████████████████████████████████████████████ the best 4x MMO around.
EVE will never win a ████████████████████████████████████████ "best looking game UI evah!" award.
This is ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ given.


These kind of changes make me think that the DEVs don't actually play the game they code. Btw - I originally tried spacing this out manually, but the DEV in charge of the forum code removes all of those nasty "extra spaces" to prevent the kind of formating I had to duplicate above.

I wonder why they would do that?


your example is spot on IMO
i can see why people do that, it's a sound idea, but in this case, it did not work,
now matter how i format the window, it's harder to read then it was before
Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#30 - 2013-09-05 12:03:42 UTC
wat? I like the new layout a lot. I had difficulties reading the old one; but even so, I hardly considered that fact a "game-breaking mechanic". "OMG, I tried EVE Online and it was incredible in every way except for the game-breaking way that attributes were laid out in the Show Info panel! It was game-breaking, I tell you! Every time I tried to read an attribute, the game crashed!"

Such drama, OP. Such drama.



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