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Bestower outhauls Itty V? are you kidding?

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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-09-04 02:00:11 UTC
So another screwover by CCP? According to the patch notes the Bestower will now out haul the Itty V.. Meaning that for a second patch in a row, those of us who spent a month skilling for the Itty V are getting screwed again.

This is bullshit.
That Seems Legit
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-09-04 02:03:16 UTC
gallente have 5 industrials. Is there anything else you'd like to cry about?

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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-09-04 02:04:38 UTC
That Seems Legit wrote:
gallente have 5 industrials. Is there anything else you'd like to cry about?

Ya, being forced to skill into another ******* indy V
That Seems Legit
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-09-04 02:05:31 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
That Seems Legit wrote:
gallente have 5 industrials. Is there anything else you'd like to cry about?

Ya, being forced to skill into another ******* indy V

No ones forcing you to do anything.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#5 - 2013-09-04 02:07:09 UTC
There has been discussion about this change for a decent length of time: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=252819&find=unread

Part of playing the game is either reading the forums to her about what changes are coming down the line, or accepting that your favourite playstyle will inevitably be nerfed.

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45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#6 - 2013-09-04 02:08:17 UTC
That Seems Legit wrote:
Desimus Maximus wrote:
That Seems Legit wrote:
gallente have 5 industrials. Is there anything else you'd like to cry about?

Ya, being forced to skill into another ******* indy V

No ones forcing you to do anything.


LOL agreed with the above quote. RollPLol

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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-09-04 02:13:07 UTC
Congratulations. you win the internet argument. I give up. Despite the blatant finger to players from CCP 2 patches in a row. If you enjoy constantly having your time wasted (i.e. month of skilling for Itty V) without fair compensation that's your prerogative.
Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-09-04 02:22:12 UTC
I've had Minmatar Indy 5 for a hair over 7 years. I've never felt compelled to train Gallente Indy 5 as well.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-09-04 02:22:57 UTC
The Iteron mark V has not lost one square metre of cargo space. How is this a screwover? You can carry just as much as you've always been able to. Why should you get compensation?
Baggo Hammers
#10 - 2013-09-04 02:24:08 UTC
As noted the patch changes related to your ship were announced in June.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#11 - 2013-09-04 02:29:12 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
The Iteron mark V has not lost one square metre of cargo space. How is this a screwover? You can carry just as much as you've always been able to. Why should you get compensation?

This.^

I may skill into a Bestower... Or I may not. My Ity-V still moves my fuel blocks up into the WH as well as ever.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#12 - 2013-09-04 02:44:39 UTC
Wait a sec, you need Gal indy 5 to fly an itty 5? Did something change? I swear I've been tootling around in an itty5, with gal Indy 2 trained...

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-09-04 02:46:38 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Wait a sec, you need Gal indy 5 to fly an itty 5? Did something change? I swear I've been tootling around in an itty5, with gal Indy 2 trained...


The number of the Iteron corresponds to the skill level you need to fly it. It's always been this way.

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-09-04 02:51:34 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
The Iteron mark V has not lost one square metre of cargo space. How is this a screwover? You can carry just as much as you've always been able to. Why should you get compensation?


Not true. But then again, the difference isn't enough to complain about, IMO.

The OP's complaint is, however, valid in that it's a symptom of a larger problem. That problem is CCP's shell game of ship stat and skill requirement changes in the guise of an "expansion".

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Lady Areola Fappington
#15 - 2013-09-04 02:52:14 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Wait a sec, you need Gal indy 5 to fly an itty 5? Did something change? I swear I've been tootling around in an itty5, with gal Indy 2 trained...


The number of the Iteron corresponds to the skill level you need to fly it. It's always been this way.



You might wanna check the reqs on an Itty 5 then. My hauler alt has Gallente Industrial 1, and flys an Itty 5 around.

According to E-Uni You need Gall Indy 1 and Spaceship command 3 to fly it.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-09-04 02:54:37 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Wait a sec, you need Gal indy 5 to fly an itty 5? Did something change? I swear I've been tootling around in an itty5, with gal Indy 2 trained...


The number of the Iteron corresponds to the skill level you need to fly it. It's always been this way.



You might wanna check the reqs on an Itty 5 then. My hauler alt has Gallente Industrial 1, and flys an Itty 5 around.

According to E-Uni You need Gall Indy 1 and Spaceship command 3 to fly it.


My apologies, it appears I am mistaken. I could of sworn it was the other way around.

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Doomheim
#17 - 2013-09-04 02:56:46 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Wait a sec, you need Gal indy 5 to fly an itty 5? Did something change? I swear I've been tootling around in an itty5, with gal Indy 2 trained...


The number of the Iteron corresponds to the skill level you need to fly it. It's always been this way.



You might wanna check the reqs on an Itty 5 then. My hauler alt has Gallente Industrial 1, and flys an Itty 5 around.

According to E-Uni You need Gall Indy 1 and Spaceship command 3 to fly it.


My apologies, it appears I am mistaken. I could of sworn it was the other way around.


Recent patch changes reduce prerequisite training.

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-09-04 02:57:16 UTC
Adacia Calla wrote:
I've had Minmatar Indy 5 for a hair over 7 years. I've never felt compelled to train Gallente Indy 5 as well.


I have all of them, along with every other subcap.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#19 - 2013-09-04 03:01:10 UTC
No, they are not kidding. Now there is *gasp* actually a reason to have any other racial hauler skill. What a crime, right? Roll

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Cosmic Goo Convertor
#20 - 2013-09-04 03:18:26 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Wait a sec, you need Gal indy 5 to fly an itty 5? Did something change? I swear I've been tootling around in an itty5, with gal Indy 2 trained...


The number of the Iteron corresponds to the skill level you need to fly it. It's always been this way.


The industrials all required level 1 of their respective skills from about June: http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/week-in-life-iteron-mark-v.html

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