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New Ship Idea. Battleship Class Carrier
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Ele Rebellion
Vertex Armada
The Initiative.
#1 - 2013-09-03 08:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ele Rebellion
EDIT: As I have received feedback, I have noticed flaws in my original suggestion. I have made some changes. Currently what I am suggesting is:
A T2 Battleship that has resist comparable to Marauders. Has bonus to drone tracking, drone hitpoints, and a small bonus to drone damage (3.5% per level)
Has a 5 drone limit, but a role bonus to allow the use of Drone Control Units (role bonus would also include fitting bonus.) Which would allow the pilot to either fit as DPS or Logi as opposed to a high dps logi.


All the talk about the Bastion Mode for Marauders had me thinking. What about giving us a T2 Battleship that serves as a Sub-Capital Carrier. (In other words: A T2 Battleship that has bonuses to drone bay, bandwidth, max number of drones in space and hitpoints/damage.. maybe even remote reps/cap)

I know I've read somewhere that a CCP dev said they don't like to design ships to have a single purpose. So this goes along with that. They could be set up for Drone DPS or Triage (like carriers) which gives them PvE and PvP uses as well as bridges the Logi Gap between T2 Logistical Cruisers and full blown Capital Carriers. (althought I know some people don't feel that such a thing exists)

The set-ups could allow for (at max skills) up to 10 Large (25 Mbit/sec) drones (no fighters) and up to 5 modules that allow for control of one additional drone each.. or just the 10 Large drones with remote assistance module bonuses.

Personally I think its a great idea. Will have great PvE and PvP uses. Might even help to encourage pilots to move from High Sec out into Low/Null to use actual Carriers. Might also encourage more Low/Null Small gang PvP.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#2 - 2013-09-03 08:34:49 UTC
i like to weigh in here....

NO

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Ele Rebellion
Vertex Armada
The Initiative.
#3 - 2013-09-03 08:43:21 UTC
Ellendras Silver wrote:
i like to weigh in here....

NO



Would you like to let us know why not?
Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
#4 - 2013-09-03 08:47:42 UTC
Slocats for high sec? I don't see anything that could go wrong here...
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#5 - 2013-09-03 09:36:32 UTC
I don't see anything wrong... Wait what?
NO

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Ele Rebellion
Vertex Armada
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-09-03 10:12:12 UTC
Trying to figure out what the problem is with this idea..

Even with 15 drones it would still fall behind the Pirate Faction ships in DPS... thinking the Vindicator is 8 T2 hybrids with 37.5 (3/8) bonus... plus has 125MBit/sec. .. (Thats like having 11T2 Blasters with 5 Drones...)

Give it extra drones, no hardpoints, maybe instead of drone damage bonus a drone resist/hitpoint bonus?

Give it Marauder resists (lower than standard T2) and similiar hitpoints.


If CCP is giong to give us a mini-dread (without the damage bonus) why can't we have Mini-Carriers without damage bonuses.
Or give it 5drones with damage bonus and a module that it can use that would allow for and extra drone per module. max5 for the ship.. giving us either a 5drone logi BS or 10drone dps setup.

On the logi side. I'm not suggesting it have better reps than a T2 Logi Cruiser.. just more hitpoints, fitting capabilities, and drones.

Really whats wrong with that?
monkfish1234
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-09-03 11:00:27 UTC
giving ships which would be 'common' more than 5 drones causes issues with drone blobs and lag. which was the reason the limit of 5 was originally introduced.

giving a ship drone dmg bonus' is just a domi / geddon.

there is no need for a triage style sub-cap becasue logi ships are so powerful, and the downsides of a triage module would make it not worth using compared to logis and standard bs.

there simply just isn't any great need or value in adding a ship like this.

I'd far rather see more utility / ewar BS brought into the game.
Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-09-03 12:02:18 UTC
CCP wants you to bring friends, rather than give you the ability to launch 10 drones from a ship that is not a carrier.

Even Dreads and Titans are limited to 5 Blink

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#9 - 2013-09-03 12:27:53 UTC
from what I'm learning it seems like carriers have very limited use themselves. Outside of triage they dont really do very much. You'll probably find that fighters are a suboptimal thing to use for combat.
Tivook OneManSlave
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-03 13:10:19 UTC
I was thinking .. With all of this talk of capital ships and whatnot..

What about a Supertitan? Where Titans and supercarriers can dock where the CQ door is open that leads to pink rooms filled to the brim with prostitutes?

YEah.
Matthias Thullmann
Dynatron Inc.
#11 - 2013-09-03 13:15:44 UTC
Escort carriers are already being discussed.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2013-09-03 14:58:44 UTC
1600 DPS on an AFK ratting ship. So...40+ mil per tick running hubs. While watching TV.

What could possibly go wrong?
Arkenai Wyrnspire
Incorruptibles
#13 - 2013-09-03 15:09:01 UTC
Use a Dominix or Armageddon.

Someone.
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-09-03 15:38:32 UTC
Ele Rebellion wrote:
Even with 15 drones it would still fall behind the Pirate Faction ships in DPS... thinking the Vindicator is 8 T2 hybrids with 37.5 (3/8) bonus... plus has 125MBit/sec. .. (Thats like having 11T2 Blasters with 5 Drones...)


That's still more than Nightmare and Bhaalgorn. A lot more than Mach.

No.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#15 - 2013-09-03 19:14:10 UTC
Ele Rebellion wrote:
Ellendras Silver wrote:
i like to weigh in here....

NO



Would you like to let us know why not?


OP in high sec why do you think carriers are forbidden in high sec ?

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-09-03 21:03:14 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
from what I'm learning it seems like carriers have very limited use themselves. Outside of triage they dont really do very much. You'll probably find that fighters are a suboptimal thing to use for combat.


I use my carrier for a lot of things. Use your imagination.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#17 - 2013-09-03 21:10:13 UTC
There are already battleship platforms that use drones. In what way would this be meaningfully different than a Dominix?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-09-03 22:17:17 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
There are already battleship platforms that use drones. In what way would this be meaningfully different than a Dominix?


Double the DPS.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#19 - 2013-09-03 22:50:37 UTC
Rain6638 wrote:
CCP wants you to bring friends, rather than give you the ability to launch 10 drones from a ship that is not a carrier.


Drones awox less Sad
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#20 - 2013-09-03 22:57:24 UTC
Matthias Thullmann wrote:
Escort carriers are already being discussed.


great but they wont get in the game because well its a bad idea

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
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