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Active Hardeners not working
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Met4L
Iron Dogs
#1 - 2013-09-03 03:01:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Met4L
Well of course this balances are maded to make more easy the game, cuz today wow generation player need soma kind of cow ship easy to fit and with "balance" so i took and ugly bug and i cant wtf play or running mission.

So i created 2 tickets, of course even with no automatic answer after 2 days. i will post the picture cuz people dont belive in anterior post.

photo 1 all off normal effecgive hitpoins
[IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/9rqdkh.jpg[/IMG]
http://tinypic.com/r/9rqdkh/5


photo 2 adaptative shield hardener and garbage bonus
[IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/29lzjh0.jpg[/IMG]
http://tinypic.com/r/29lzjh0/5

photo 3 Em hardener working fine, but just one if you activate 2 or more they dont give the partial bonus
[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/335e5hx.jpg[/IMG]
http://tinypic.com/r/335e5hx/5

photo 4 kinetic hardener not giving the bonus
[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/2rzcv2p.jpg[/IMG]
http://tinypic.com/r/2rzcv2p/5

photo 5 hardener not giving the bonus
[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/2uqmbzp.jpg[/IMG]
http://tinypic.com/r/2uqmbzp/5

Also thermal doesnt work at all , im really not a so fat ass to be posting all day i have to go work, i hate wasting time on buggy things. please help.

already reinstalled
already cache cleared
already 2 tickets open
alreasy gtf buggy game im not computer nerd to be on forum all day lookig for how to clear cache.

really not computer people have to get patiente with this game.
im not trial im paying.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-09-03 03:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugia3
Hey re tard, it is working fine. EvE only calculates EHP for the lowest resist on each level. Your resists are going up, so they are working. Download EFT and look at the true EHP there if you're so concerned about it.

Also, missions are not about EHP, they are about repair. Stop making more threads for this.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#3 - 2013-09-03 03:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE McFACE
The EHP on the ingame fitting tool only gives you the EHP based on the lowest resist. Thats why only the EM hardener worked fine, but only if you activated one. When you activated 2 the lowest resist became thermal at 27% rather than EM at 8%.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Met4L
Iron Dogs
#4 - 2013-09-03 03:11:31 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
The EHP on the ingame fitting tool only gives you the EHP based on the lowest resist. Thats why only the EM hardener worked fine, but only if you activated one. When you activated 2 the lowest resist became thermal and the EHP was calculated off that.


men yesterday was given the EHP today no, **** gurista do 200 per hit, understand that! at last did you saw the picture ! they are not working **** how so dificult to explain that...
i activated all and they dotn give bonus fts!!
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#5 - 2013-09-03 03:11:38 UTC
When i look at the screenshots i see that the resists are working fine.
The ehp doesnt increase in the specific hardeners because that also takes into account your lowest resist.

When you use an adaptive invul the ehp does increase and also the resist, so it doesnt really look bugged to me.
Met4L
Iron Dogs
#6 - 2013-09-03 03:13:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Met4L
Lugia3 wrote:
Hey re tard, it is working fine. EvE only calculates EHP for the lowest resist on each level. Your resists are going up, so they are working. Download EFT and look at the true EHP there if you're so concerned about it.

Also, missions are not about EHP, they are about repair. Stop making more threads for this.

gtf idiot thay are not stackin ehp undestand that!! they are not working mongol im not noob to know the mecanic of staking of course has a penalty, the problem is they are doing nothing!!!!!!! it show bonus but the **** npc do 200 dmg how so estupid dom e frigate garbage
Met4L
Iron Dogs
#7 - 2013-09-03 03:15:45 UTC
Daisai wrote:
When i look at the screenshots i see that the resists are working fine.
The ehp doesnt increase in the specific hardeners because that also takes into account your lowest resist.

When you use an adaptive invul the ehp does increase and also the resist, so it doesnt really look bugged to me.


lol another I ACTIVATED ALLLLLLL SAME TIME SHOULD GIVE EHP LIKE AN ADAPTATIVE THEY DONT GIVE THE BONUS !! **** STOP BEING A LAWER FOR CCP
Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-09-03 03:18:10 UTC
We've done it. At long last, we've found the single dumbest guy in Eve Online.

All this time I was so sure it would be someone from Merchi.
Caterpil
Amanina Avada Corporation
#9 - 2013-09-03 03:18:41 UTC
EHP in the fitting screen is calculated differently than in third party tools. By default EFT and Pyfa assume you take Omni damage (25% each type) but can be customised for different damage profiles. The EVE fitting screen always assume that you are being hit on your worst resist.

So- for the EHP on the EVE fitting screen:

- When you have no active hardeners your EHP is calculated on your shield's EM resistance (photo 1)

- With only invuls active you're EM resistance is still lowest (although increased) so the new value for EM resistance is used (photo 2)

- Activating a single EM hardener makes thermal damage the new lowest resist so EHP will now be calculated on you're thermal resist. Activating more than one EM hardener will not change the EHP on the fitting screen because thermal is still the lowest resistance. (photo 3)

- Kinetic hardeners will not adjust the figure as EM is still you're lowest restance (photo 4)

In short: its not a bug, it's simply a discrepancy between the way that the game calculates EHP and third party tools do it. You're resistances are still applied.
Yaturi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-03 03:21:42 UTC
look at your other thread, I think I found your problem. Well, one of them atleast
Met4L
Iron Dogs
#11 - 2013-09-03 03:24:46 UTC
LOL forget iquit it has being 2 days waiting for suport and nothing. aver time they do some improvement they bug people. so i quit better for me , less stress cuz im not computer nerd to be on cache crap, i use computer to run sap and porno.

ill go to play runescape lol has lees bugs gtfeve
Met4L
Iron Dogs
#12 - 2013-09-03 03:28:06 UTC
Caterpil wrote:
EHP in the fitting screen is calculated differently than in third party tools. By default EFT and Pyfa assume you take Omni damage (25% each type) but can be customised for different damage profiles. The EVE fitting screen always assume that you are being hit on your worst resist.

So- for the EHP on the EVE fitting screen:

- When you have no active hardeners your EHP is calculated on your shield's EM resistance (photo 1)

- With only invuls active you're EM resistance is still lowest (although increased) so the new value for EM resistance is used (photo 2)

- Activating a single EM hardener makes thermal damage the new lowest resist so EHP will now be calculated on you're thermal resist. Activating more than one EM hardener will not change the EHP on the fitting screen because thermal is still the lowest resistance. (photo 3)

- Kinetic hardeners will not adjust the figure as EM is still you're lowest restance (photo 4)

In short: its not a bug, it's simply a discrepancy between the way that the game calculates EHP and third party tools do it. You're resistances are still applied.


OF COUSER KINETIK SO LEES BONUS PLEASE UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT GIVING BONUSESSS!!! JUST SHOWING BUT GURISTA GARBAGE KICK MY ASS EVEN WITH 2 KINETICK HARDENER AND 1 THERMAL ACTIVATED, AS THIS FIT SHOW
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/64804-Lv3-Mission-Drake.html SORRY for caps im on rage yesterday did 35 lol
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-09-03 03:30:52 UTC
Met4L wrote:
LOL forget iquit it has being 2 days waiting for suport and nothing. aver time they do some improvement they bug people. so i quit better for me , less stress cuz im not computer nerd to be on cache crap, i use computer to run sap and porno.

ill go to play runescape lol has lees bugs gtfeve


I'm sorry that you are too dumb for this game.

About your reply, I said nothing about the stacking penalty. Your lowest resist is EM, so the EHP shown only rises if you use an EM or adaptive hardener. Look at your resists and the hardeners are working fine.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Yaturi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-09-03 03:32:36 UTC
did you read wtf I wrote though, Do you not have caldari bc skill 5? W H A T I S Y O U R S K I L L L E V E L.

Tell me, damit

Now you got me raging
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2013-09-03 03:41:24 UTC
Wow, people are bad at eve online.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#16 - 2013-09-03 03:53:28 UTC
Quote:
ill go to play runescape lol has lees bugs gtfeve

I don't know... Runescape might be a bit difficult for you based on this thread and the other one you made.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#17 - 2013-09-03 03:55:02 UTC
Met4L wrote:
Daisai wrote:
When i look at the screenshots i see that the resists are working fine.
The ehp doesnt increase in the specific hardeners because that also takes into account your lowest resist.

When you use an adaptive invul the ehp does increase and also the resist, so it doesnt really look bugged to me.


lol another I ACTIVATED ALLLLLLL SAME TIME SHOULD GIVE EHP LIKE AN ADAPTATIVE THEY DONT GIVE THE BONUS !! **** STOP BEING A LAWER FOR CCP



If this is the response you give to people when you ask for for help, even when you post it in the wrong subforum.
Then perhapse do not post at all.

Now if you look at your own screenshots like this one http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=335e5hx&s=5

You see you boost your lowest resist so your ehp increases.

Now when you use the kinetic hardener http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rzcv2p&s=5

You dont boost your em resists so your ehp is calculated by your em resists.


So again, they are working fine.
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#18 - 2013-09-03 03:59:04 UTC
I think OP should start making threads about balance and how to fix issues. To Features and Ideas my friend!!! >>>
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-09-03 03:59:05 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Wow, people are this bad at eve online.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#20 - 2013-09-03 04:13:13 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Wow, people are this bad at posting.



FBYP

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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