Crime & Punishment

There are many types of suicide gankers out there some do it because they some like the order do it more for roleplay and some like me do it for profit (and sometimes fun) I have toons that are -10 and live in low-sec and dabbled in WH space and only time they ever pop in to high sec to say high is 'down time' with friends to gank a miner or two but this toon does not gank purely for amusement it stays away from miners and goes purely for haulers.

Got to make those iskies somehow

I wouldn't say I hate suicide gankers... I love the squealing when they explode.

For me, they are a source of entertainment. I have NEVER found a group in EVE that will give me the same level of wonderful tears that a ganker will if you push him hard enough. Some of them really dont like being the victims of non-consensual PvP... who knew.

Only thing I really hate about them is they tend to keep their mains secret to avoid any possible repercussions down the line... but heh, who cares.

I dont mind non-consensual pvp hey my victi...err customers are forced to face my wrath I will not accept duels with my nado though even though some drake pilot seemed really up for fighting me... do these people not know we are cost efficient and rarely carry more then 1 round per gun???

I have people whore on my mails pod me because you know gankers think they are invincible and anything is a win :) I have had pilots scan me and my partner down and with 2 rounds between us lose the isk war trollolol and why is everyone obsessed with mains? What counts as a main anyway? because I spent the majority of my time on my gank toon so surly that is my main even though it is not as old as my other toons.

EVE is a harsh world and there will be no tears from me after all as much as we come attached to our ships assets toons and implants it is after all just a game.

I personally don't have an issue with suicide ganking, as long as the ganker remains civil. There's nothing I find more annoying than a ganker who uses behaviour that I generally associate with preteen Call of Duty players.

While I myself am no longer a ganker, I can respect the fact that others find this way of life an enjoyable one, as I did as well when I was younger.
I've already suffered a couple of gankings on my new character for not paying attention while mining, and I was able to have a long and thoroughly amusing conversation with one of the brigands who got me.

I do however draw the line at pod-killing.
Recently I found myself mining in a very rich asteroid belt in Caldari space.
Now, prior to entering the asteroid belt I had no prior knowledge of Goonswarm's 'Mining Protection Program' or even where their mining rights areas were located.
So you can imagine my surprise when a random ship drops out of warp on top of me and turns my ship to scrap.

I didn't even get so much as a warning. Something along the lines of 'You are currently in an Asteroid field under the jurisdiction of Goonswarm. Those without a valid mining permit are not allowed to mine here. Leave now or your ship will be destroyed.' Hell, he could've even given me the option of buying into the program. I would've at least considered the blasted thing.
Not that it matters really, its done.

Now, I can deal with having my ship destroyed. It happens, and I can just move on.
But what is it people get out of pod killing? It doesn't gain you anything, and its really just an annoyance in the long run, but I just can't see why someone would do it.

Fair enough. I found pod-killing to be a fairly pointless endevour back on my old account, since all it got me was endless pestering.

On the first view, I dont think the ganking itself is the issue here, more the fact that young and slightly derailed players like you actually think that ganking has anything to do with pvp while having a strong need in sharing their opinion in local about that.

maybe you should rephrase your question to "Why dont see me people as the professional-underground-badass-pirate I want to be?!"



fine, I guess you can call it "player vs player" if you really think the only requiremnt for pvp is that both parties are controling a ship (even then 80% of the time its prolly player vs. autopilot). But why most people think that there is a difference between high-sec ganking and well "PVP" is because everything that makes "real pvp" difficult, doesnt matter for ganking. Again ganking is nothing bad at all, most people do it to finance their "conventional PVP" expeirence anyway, but if u think High-sec ganking is the supreme discipline in eve, your probably a baddie.

have you ever tried this pvp thing by yourself or is this all you heard about it?

New players join the game, then bad players who don't understand the game make them think highsec is safe, and teach them a lot of bad practices

new players meet Mr AntiMatter and rage

and then they themselves become bad players, and teach new players bad things and how to cry

I dont know, i got a viator ganked with about 10 mil in loot dropping once. He got the shiny cloak, but he sends me an evemail with a survey to fill out.

I figure, whatever, learned a lesson and filled out the survey to indicate that i was
1)making a mistake when the guy got me.
2)still had a sense of humor, and didn't hold a grudge on the kill.

The ganker proceeds to edit sections of the survey and send an evemail containing the now massively offensive "response" and tears to my CEO. I'm not sure if he was sad the ship was empty or what... but very unprofessional behavior.

I wouldn't get ganked by this guy again, nor would i recommend him to my friends/family

Indeed. Beause you've got the original message, which gives the lie. Never EVER leave a paper trail when forging a response...

Sadly, theres no enforcing quality control amongst gankers.



Quite right. Save yourself to be victimized by a higher quality of hoodlum. Much more satisfying in the end.