Out of Pod Experience

I think SC should be compared to WoW, because WoW has a market, and you walk around in WoW.
Also, WoW has a market too

Also, please learn to pronounce words correctly if you're going to insist on making videos about things some people might be interested in. I watched through both of those videos and the one yesterday, and had a really hard time not because of the content but just the fact that the commentary was so bland and boring.

Oh look, another SC thread.

I don't see why you need to go the lengths to make this comparison when Chris Roberts is not and won't be comparing Star Citizen to EVE, as you even mention in your own video.

To me it is a bit funny that the only people interested in this comparison are the people that feel very passionately about Star Citizen, it is not the other way around and that I find curious, peculiar even. I have some serious doubts, concern even, about Mr. Roberts' method of funding this (going back on his LTI promise once already) project and I am sceptical if he can actually deliver this insanely ambitious game.

Do I want the passionate backers of Star Citizen to have this game and experience the full glory of it? Hell yes!

Do I think there is cause for concern when people are pledging millions of dollars to what is essentially just promises at this point? Yes, I do.

Do I think there is a justifiable reason, and is it even necessary, to compare EVE to Star Citizen when they have little more in common other than space and spaceships? No. But internet spaceships is serious business, I guess and therefore people with too much time on their hands will think of all kinds of ridiculous and inane reasons to make a comparison.

Addendum: If I may offer you some advice for the future, calling people 'dense' because they don't see it, is that stupid or don't want to admit it in a video when your own arguments shines of argumentum ad ignorantiam is generally considered by many to be a pretty poor idea.

edit: As I wrote this post at 2 am, it was a bit messy as one can imagine but having a few hours of sleep and armed with coffee, I cleaned this up a little.

To me, it's more like a dude spamming his video blogs...

Because you can't warn people that the sky is falling if it's already fallen.

I don't get this.

the more people say to be careful of promises about "ZOMG TEH GAME TO END ALL GAMES", the more people bite it.


at this point and because of all these threads about SC I am pretty much hoping for the damn game to tank harder than titanic.

I agree, but I also think this game would never got the funding if that didn't happen.

But, I hate the "God complex" CR is setting out. You can see in interviews with CR and any PR with CR or his games he is set out to be higher than everyone. You never hear about his mistakes, and you never hear about how he learned from his past.
In fact it's even gone as far as his fanboys have called him a God. (You can see this in a few YouTube videos, forum post, and some articles)

As for myself, I've never heard of CR before Star Citizen. I've checked out some of his past games, and I think they suck (but that's comparing it to what we have today). To top it off, I honestly don't like CR. His voice is annoying, and for the most part he only tells half truths (give a maybe to a yes or no question. This way, everyone is happy).
If it wasn't for a few of his employees giving a yes or no and not a maybe. I wouldn't backed the game.

Absolutely. ... sad that it didn't work out quite as well for David Braben, who together with Ian Bell, invented the whole genre in the first place.



To be fair:
In the 90's there were a handful of companies pushing gaming to new heights. ORIGIN, the company Chris Roberts worked for, did Ultima and Wing Commander. Ultima spawned many sequels including Ultima online (UO). UO, while not the first MMO, is a landmark in MMO gaming. That game defined what the MMO genre would look like for many years. UO also inspired a bunch of Icelanders into creating EVE-online.

Wing Commander, Chris Roberts' brainchild, was mostly notable for being very polished and engaging. The game did nothing that hadn't been done before, but it tied all the components into a neat package. The most notable part was the very immersive story telling. After Wing Commander 2 the game featured filmed scenes with real actors ... and the numbers of CDs in the package was growing with each new title.

But yeah, there is no guarantee that Chris Roberts can deliver on his promises any better then other famous game designers/developpers. Plenty of people who did amazing things in the 90's: Peter Molyneux, John Carmack, Will Wright ...

Well... the disaster with Elite 3 and the fact that Elite 4 has been vaporware for 15 years haven't helped David Braben.

Also Braben is a one-trick developer. He did Elite... and that's it.

OTOH, at least he's not Derek Smart.

No they did not. Elite was hugely successful but the genre was pretty solidly laid out and has changed very little since Star Trader, later the Trade Wars series and more than a few things from the Traveller pnp RPG.